Message from @Deleted User

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2018-07-01 05:14:20 UTC  

When we die, we are dead. There is nothing more. No heaven, hell, purgatory, ghosts, nothing.

2018-07-01 05:14:35 UTC  

So a person has no soul and no meaning whatsoever

2018-07-01 05:14:52 UTC  

Thus it is not wrong to impose your will on others. It's nature.

2018-07-01 05:15:25 UTC  

But it is if it lessens your chance in the future to be able to do such things os forfeit by doing so

2018-07-01 05:16:37 UTC  

It doesn't

2018-07-01 05:16:45 UTC  

It does

2018-07-01 05:16:53 UTC  

Jail self defence retaliation

2018-07-01 05:17:00 UTC  

There's plenty of immoral things you can do and get away with

2018-07-01 05:17:20 UTC  

All things could end you ability to act on your impulses any longer

2018-07-01 05:17:38 UTC  

And even then that makes it wrong only in your perspective

2018-07-01 05:17:48 UTC  

And the more immoral things you do the more likely that is to happen

2018-07-01 05:18:08 UTC  

That's because other people have morals that come from something higher than ourselves

2018-07-01 05:18:24 UTC  

And fundamentally the inability to act on your own is bad

2018-07-01 05:19:10 UTC  

No for isntance if a dog tries to rape a cougar its it's likely to die.

2018-07-01 05:19:20 UTC  

Bad from your perspective only

2018-07-01 05:19:36 UTC  

Explain how that is good for the dog

2018-07-01 05:19:55 UTC  

Bad for the dog only

2018-07-01 05:20:11 UTC  

Then that isnt just my perspective

2018-07-01 05:20:20 UTC  

Its basically a fact

2018-07-01 05:20:23 UTC  

It's subjective

2018-07-01 05:20:31 UTC  

Subjective to the individual person

2018-07-01 05:20:38 UTC  

Then how is it good?

2018-07-01 05:21:33 UTC  

Good is subjective

2018-07-01 05:21:50 UTC  

No absolute for good, or for anything, because God doesn't exist

2018-07-01 05:21:58 UTC  

Ive said that

2018-07-01 05:22:18 UTC  

If you do something against someone to benefit yourself, if you succeed, it's good. If you fail, it's bad.

2018-07-01 05:22:19 UTC  

Its a spectrum a graph there is always worse or better

2018-07-01 05:22:44 UTC  

Only with God can an act always be bad even if you don't get caught. Even if the entire world never knows about it.

2018-07-01 05:22:47 UTC  

If you succeed and they kill you its bad

2018-07-01 05:22:54 UTC  

That's not success

2018-07-01 05:23:08 UTC  

Go to jail, get killed, etc is all failure

2018-07-01 05:23:12 UTC  

Then you are speaking in absolutes

2018-07-01 05:23:21 UTC  

As it may not happen immediately

2018-07-01 05:23:57 UTC  

It is because it throws your future into increased uncertainty that it is bad

2018-07-01 05:24:37 UTC  

This is in addition to the harm you also caused the person

2018-07-01 05:24:45 UTC  

And if that uncertainty is unfounded, it's not bad

2018-07-01 05:24:58 UTC  

And that in many situations the same act on your self is bad

2018-07-01 05:24:59 UTC  

Harm to another person doesn't matter any more than smashing a bug

2018-07-01 05:25:16 UTC  

It is

2018-07-01 05:25:32 UTC  

Because it throws your future into more uncertainty

2018-07-01 05:25:44 UTC  

And increases your risk of harm