They might be serious but they arent to be taken seriously.

You are literally cherry picking atheists facebook page to discredit them all.

Again unless you have some huge reference guide on atheism that Im missing?

Yes... and Atheist groups are still a laughing stock to this day.

They post the same arguments and do the exact same thing as most other Atheist facebook pages because Atheism, in general, has lost any sort of ability to formulate arguments.

The basic argument Im getting here is that Atheists are a laughing stock because they dont do research and you found this out purely from Facebook. I guess its easier to see hypocrisy when you embody it so well. Again unless you have done your research, third time saying that.

No, I've pretty much consumed most of the media - from Youtube to Facebook to the websites - and I can safely say that they are a laughing stock.

Which again isnt serious. So you are accuse them with no research of accusing you with no research. You could have defaulted to atheists who feel their superior simply because no religion are annoying as shit. But you doubled down doing exactly what they did that upsets you. Facebook and youtube isnt a reputable source. Unless you are omitting the theoretical literature and research papers you read. You have yet to cite an athiest source that would be comparable to the bible you want them to read. You are getting it from secomd hand and unreliable sources.

Like in defense of religion Rag linked to Summa Theologica

That is a reliable source

But Summa isn't a source

Its biased but its still more than a facebook or youtube

It's Aristotle style logic and reason to come to a conclusion

Well not primary but atill a studied resource to be used for reference

Ehzek I would like you to read it, even if it doesn't convert you I think you'd be a fan of that kind of philosophical writing

Its still open in a tab

The author is Catholic of course but it's often mandatory in Protestant seminary

Idk I feel that even if we havent come to an understanding between each other it still feels like we learned a bit nore about our own beliefs.

Its one thing to hold a belief but quite another to articulate it

I think among your people, Christianity is often very misunderstood

Devout atheists think we usually just have blind faith and believe things just because the Bible said so, the Church is/was anti science etc

I would argue most people dont have mastery of the concepts they oppose

Just more knowledge of what they support

So I'm happy to be able to stand up for the Church even in its historical contexts if not the theological basis

Well among the religious athiets are mainly seen as blind disbelievers so its not exactly one sided

Agreed

Sadly there are blind Christians

Often the people born and raised in it, never had to do any research or reasoning, they just took their faith for granted and can't defend it when challenged

And they also can't appreciate it

Im not even sure how blind atheists exist

If youbare atheists you should hold science in high esteem. If you do then you should accept that the chance of god isnt 0% so you cant be sure

Now or ever honestly

From our perspective, all atheists are closing their eyes... because to us, the evidence of God is everywhere

Eventually though, science can't explain everything

So even both sides have to admit, we don't always have the answer

There are always things we don't know

I would argue even if it did you probably wouldnt be able to learn it all and prove god didnt exist

So would you call yourself agnostic?

Idk

Well you admit that you don't know for sure that God doesn't exist

Ive heard that agnosticism is the belief in god and not religion but that isnt quite right