Message from @Deleted User

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2018-07-15 00:45:32 UTC  

You don't see a lot of those in the west, they're still Catholic and follow the exact same theology but have some different traditions

2018-07-16 17:44:54 UTC  

Is this good?

2018-07-16 17:44:57 UTC  

book I mean

2018-07-16 17:45:06 UTC  

I am interested to read something unbiased about the conflict

2018-07-16 17:45:13 UTC  

but everyone either supports one side or hates both

2018-07-16 18:33:33 UTC  

You'll never find an unbiased anything

2018-07-16 18:33:51 UTC  

It's easier to just do your own research and form your own conclusions

2018-07-16 18:37:08 UTC  

Here is what I can offer. The Nation of Palestine never existed. Before Israel 1948, the land belonged to Britain, conquered in WW1, from the former Ottoman Empire.

2018-07-16 18:39:45 UTC  

You have to decide for yourself what makes a nation legitimate, and can it lose legitimacy? If conquest makes a nation legitimate, then Britain was the rightful ruler and would have authority to give it to whoever they wanted

2018-07-16 18:40:14 UTC  

That would also make the Ottomans the rightful rulers until they were defeated of course

2018-07-16 18:40:55 UTC  

If crimes against humanity forfeits legitimacy, then they would be illegitimate because of genocides against Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians.

2018-07-16 22:03:00 UTC  

you can look at the history of Israel in relation to the Middle East and draw your own conclusion

2018-07-16 22:06:40 UTC  

Prior to the Muslim conquest, it was a country called the Kingdom of Jerusalem

2018-07-16 22:07:05 UTC  

Prior to the Muslim conquest, it was a country called the Kingdom of Jerusalem

2018-07-16 22:09:10 UTC  

before that it was under Roman rule as Judaea, then Rome merged Judaea and Syria to create Syria Palaestina

2018-07-16 22:09:15 UTC  

where the term "Palestine" originates

2018-07-16 22:09:39 UTC  

before that i am not too knowledgeable on, something about the Maccabees and Greeks

2018-07-16 22:10:15 UTC  

hundreds of years before that, Judea and Samaria

2018-07-16 22:10:20 UTC  

and before that Unified Kingdom of Israel

2018-07-16 22:14:23 UTC  

I dunno why that was sent twice

2018-07-16 22:15:10 UTC  

There was a period of Muslim rule before KoJ, and prior to that, Byzantine rule

2018-07-16 22:31:10 UTC  

Palestinian probably comes from the Philistines

2018-07-16 22:32:23 UTC  

They're not related to the modern Palestinians though. All the Philistines are dead.

2018-07-16 22:40:36 UTC  

as i understand it, Rome named it Palaestina as to spite the Jews, naming their land after their enemies

2018-07-16 22:41:07 UTC  

which sounds like something Rome would do

2018-07-16 23:14:45 UTC  

Yep

2018-07-17 04:48:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/468639993615613952/37179901_958376057698335_4231074859993530368_n.png

2018-07-17 06:37:39 UTC  

lmao

2018-07-17 10:19:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/468723356703784970/image.jpg

2018-07-17 10:20:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/468723747122184212/image.jpg

2018-07-17 15:09:48 UTC  

@Deleted User I was talking about the big mega churches.

2018-07-17 15:10:09 UTC  

Preachers who own private jets and mansions.

2018-07-17 15:58:12 UTC  

@Iakovos most or all of them are worthless

2018-07-17 16:08:42 UTC  

The religious leaders you’re referring to are just heretics and apostates. Joel Osteen and his crowd aren’t doing God’s work. They may have at some point, but they definitely aren’t now.

2018-07-17 16:11:58 UTC  

Well anyway

2018-07-17 16:12:37 UTC  

It's all a big mess and nothing is consistent. There's too much contradicting information and, honestly, I don't want to spend my time with it.

2018-07-17 16:13:40 UTC  

Religion isn't for me, I only cherry pick good morals and values from such works of literature, and if I had the ability, would apply them in the political realm.

2018-07-17 16:13:54 UTC  

same

2018-07-17 16:15:17 UTC  

Religion should be used to control the masses, and the more they believe in the Gods the nation has chosen as the National religion (which should correspond with the national culture) the better.

2018-07-17 16:16:03 UTC  

Catholicism works in Europe, Protestantism works in the West.