Who decides what is moral?

Naturally, looking from **our** perspective, killing people in Gulags or concentration camps is imoral

But for those people that believe in that, that action is not imoral

Then which one is right?

In fact, for a true Nazi, killing Jews is just the right way to be

Or is there no such thing as morality?

Its not up to me or to you to decide what thread of morality prevails

But for society as a whole

You will never reach a consensus, a universal one

But the majority will dictate

Society as a whole generally accepts Judeo-Christian morality as being right

Yes

The majority dictated that communism was right in the Russian Civil War. Therefore, communism is right, by your own statement, and thus you are a communist.

You are missing my point, arent you?

Morality is based on where you are and when you are

If the majority of people in country A believe Communism to be morally correct, then it is morally correct **for them**

Nothing to do with us

And if a popular uprising of communists in the US outnumbered people willing to resist, then in your view communism would be right

If the majority of the population believes Communism to be the answer, then it is

Our job, as non-Communists, is to open their eyes

But then we would be wrong

Majority rules cannot be the standard for what is right

In any society

What is the motivation behind your personal crusade against religion?

Why do you think you are right? Our society, in fact most societies think you are wrong

The only ones who might agree are France, Germany, Britain, and North Korea

And then we only have to rewind a bit to see their history with religion and how they have declined since. Pyongyang was once called Jerusalem of the East because of the prevalence of Christianity

France and Germany were major Catholic powers. Note that Catholic Europe produced almost all we know in the scientific world. From astronomy to genetics

Interesting. Moral relativism 🤣. So because the majority of Muslims believe it’s okay to move to Europe and rape and murder non-Muslims it’s morally okay? Because if we, as the minority, believe it’s wrong to rape and murder non-Muslims, then we are wrong.

And even without Muslims, Europe had degeneracy

It started in Britain with Henry VIII. It started in France with the French Revolution, compounded by the loss of Algeria and Indochina

In Germany, with the 30 Years War

Here's the thing. You are foolish to be absolutely sure that there is a god, and you are foolish to believe there is absolutely not a god. I don't know, I've never seen evidence, but I've heard stories about supernatural happenings - and they aren't 'ghost' stories, either. Rather miraculous ones. So, until I see one of those I will hold steadfast in agnosticism.

And if you're wondering Sagif, I don't believe in morals. I don't believe in right or wrong. I believe in what is natural, and coincidently, the Bible speaks a lot of what is natural. Homosexuality isn't natural. Murder isn't natural. Thievery goes against the nature of a unified tribe - and that is what you want, a unified tribe. And so many OTHER laws the bible commands that *are* natural, and that by following them it makes HUMAN life easier.

Now, don't get me wrong. There are some arbitrary laws in the bible, but if we are to follow a code of law that determines moral values, I would rather have Christianity any day. Some forms of Paganism were good, but I abhor Islam, and that is what we are at war against. So telling everyone to 'quit their religion' is a dumb idea - because they won't. You have invaders, and they need to cling to something to fight back. To give them hope. It's the nature of humans, and personally I find it fascinating that humans can look beyond their own and be humble enough to admit that there is something more powerful than them

I certainly believe you can't force people to believe in anything. That's a choice the individual has to make for himself. But blanket attacks on all religion are what leftist degenerates do.

An emotional argument made because someone doesn't like the ban against homosexuality usually

We here, do not deal with emotional arguments. We deal in logic and reason, like Casimir does in arguing the necessity of a religion as the mortar holding a civilization together

The Constitution our guide for law, and faith our guide for morality

I reached my religious convictions through research and logic.

Nothing is self creating except that which must be outside of the limitations of the universe, which cannot create itself.