Message from @shinsoo
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Ace, but is was trying very hard to be at the time.
A command economy is not capitalism, nationalized industries are not capitalism
at their core, the left and right are defined by their stance on social hierarchies
originally, the left was secular and republican whilst the right was religious and monarchist
racial superiority, and any policy based on it, is inherently right-wing
China largely sits on a publicly owned market. Private business is a nonfactor in China
so Question: when is communism/socialism a good thing?
>using the wrong term makes a command economy capitalist
Blog harder
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Yes the Nazis got to power through fear but that doesn't stop what Hitler doen to businesses that didn't hit their imposable targetrs. Nazisim was born out of Marxist socialism.
nazism had nothing to do with marxism lmao
I basically consider communism and absolutely free markets to be two sides of the same coin: Nice ideas in theory, but impossible to implement in practice without it going wrong.
it rose from italian fascism
Alright Shinsoo, alright.
Italian fascism was the result of a split from socialism
it really wasn't, that's just the rhetoric they used to appeal to workers at the time
>t-they were just lying
>taking fascists by their word
BREAKING NEWS: most of us are humans the left denys claims and is starting a new term anti nonhumans
>ignore the nationalization, that's capitalism now
if you want us to throw memes at each other, that's fine
i'd prefer an actual discussion
A government run economy is inherently not capitalist
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Year_Plan
Technically, it is. Capitalism is an economic system in which trade, industries, and the means of production are largely or entirely privately owned and operated for profit.
State capitalism is usually described as an economic system in which commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity is undertaken by the state, with management and organization of the means of production in a capitalist manner, including the system of capital accumulation, wage labor, and centralized management.
Simply the capitalist class was represented by the state. That is, state capitalism is a merely a flavor of capitalism, a monopolistic one, without market.
>privately owned
>the state owns it
These are contradictory statements
Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany
the nazis privatised as much as they could
they encouraged cartels and monopolies and were uninterested in economic competition, but nationalisation wasn't their focus
taking care of the civilian sector was seen as a waste of government manpower and resources, they wanted to focus everything on warfare
>1930
>four year plan was in 36
Oh boy
this might surprise you, but 1936 is in the 30s
there's a neat section that explains their privatisation policies
and how they cooperated with businesses
fun fact, my university's main building is named after a private company which used slave labour from nazi camps
the company was split up after the war, one of its remnants today is Bayer
You're not addressing the Nazi control of the economy, which was part of the '36 4 Year Plan