Message from @shinsoo

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2018-10-24 22:43:56 UTC  

marxists see socialism (dictatorship of the proletariat) as a transition to communism (stateless, moneyless, classless society), aye

2018-10-24 22:44:23 UTC  

Right, so what makes that different from a fascist end state that controls the economy centrally?

2018-10-24 22:44:31 UTC  

where would you expand? Mexico or Canada? Eastern Russia? some more impoverished islands? @Bookworm

2018-10-24 22:44:34 UTC  

It's done for the glory of the nation, or for the volk

2018-10-24 22:44:56 UTC  

Africa. Almost no international oversight, rich natural resources, resistance would be almost nonexistent.

2018-10-24 22:45:19 UTC  

spicy

2018-10-24 22:46:29 UTC  

@Beemann socialism in the marxist sense has no private ownership of the means of production
in other words, no private business, no private property, only personal and state property

2018-10-24 22:46:49 UTC  

that's completely opposed to the nazi's pursuit of privatisation

2018-10-24 22:46:51 UTC  

USSR had private property and wages

2018-10-24 22:46:59 UTC  

The point is to transition

2018-10-24 22:47:03 UTC  

that's why they called themselves state capitalist

2018-10-24 22:47:32 UTC  

The USSR called themselves socialist

2018-10-24 22:48:24 UTC  

why you stick to terms they used to describe them selfs?
instead of focusing in reality what it was and how things worked?

2018-10-24 22:48:27 UTC  

they wanted to transition to socialism through a short state capitalist period
they called themselves communist, *ideologically*, but that doesn't reflect what their state looked like

2018-10-24 22:48:50 UTC  

State capitalism is the people's republic of markets

2018-10-24 22:49:05 UTC  

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2018-10-24 22:49:10 UTC  

woke

2018-10-24 22:49:15 UTC  

except without markets

2018-10-24 22:50:02 UTC  

And without republics

2018-10-24 22:51:22 UTC  

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2018-10-24 22:52:07 UTC  

gonna head off to sleep now
nice talking 👋

2018-10-24 23:54:31 UTC  

Here’s the Vox article Tim covered today. Archived and ready to share .
“ A men’s right activist sued a women’s beer event “ by Rebecca Jennings on Vox

This article criticizes an activist for suing business owners that discriminate based on gender. They lionized a woman raising money to fight against victims of discrimination based on California’s laws. It also claims that civil rights were just about cutting down white, cis, heterosexual, men.

http://archive.today/2rrOm

2018-10-25 00:05:34 UTC  

I hope that all the talk of gender equality can actually be used to promote men's rights.

2018-10-25 00:05:52 UTC  

We have paid lip service to it long enough.

2018-10-25 00:06:50 UTC  

people say toxic masculinity is a problem but frankly i don't see it

2018-10-25 00:07:02 UTC  

you know what toxic masculinity gave us

2018-10-25 00:07:10 UTC  

over-the-top action films from the 1980s

2018-10-25 00:07:19 UTC  

pretty good

2018-10-25 00:08:23 UTC  

If toxic masculinity is real, is toxic femininity?<:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-10-25 00:08:39 UTC  

that would be uh

2018-10-25 00:09:18 UTC  

butch lesbians?

2018-10-25 00:09:25 UTC  

dunno

2018-10-25 00:11:37 UTC  

feminists😉

2018-10-25 00:11:52 UTC  

and soy boys.

2018-10-25 00:12:11 UTC  

the nanny state

2018-10-25 00:12:19 UTC  

no playing outside

2018-10-25 00:12:40 UTC  

so britain

2018-10-25 00:12:47 UTC  

no wait

2018-10-25 00:12:55 UTC  

south korea's shadow government

2018-10-25 00:13:04 UTC  

elite women controlling a supposed president