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2019-06-18 19:18:16 UTC  

wtf

2019-06-18 19:18:30 UTC  

Oh god

2019-06-18 19:18:43 UTC  

So thats where come the fricking heresy about Jesus with Maria

2019-06-18 19:18:46 UTC  

Yeah that was basically my reaction too

2019-06-18 19:18:58 UTC  

I was raised Protestant, may God forgive me

2019-06-18 19:19:26 UTC  

Jesus? Fucking someone? Oh my word what Luther thinking

2019-06-18 19:19:29 UTC  

Now I understand why Orthodox ex-communicate every year the protestants

2019-06-18 19:20:18 UTC  

"Moses must ever be looked upon with suspicion, even as upon a heretic, excommunicated, damned, worse than the Pope and the devil.

2019-06-18 19:20:26 UTC  

total kek

2019-06-18 19:21:35 UTC  

I just made a kek which makes more sense then that

2019-06-18 19:21:46 UTC  

Luther was not thinking. Many modern doctors believe he had severe mental illness.

2019-06-18 19:21:53 UTC  

It shows

2019-06-18 19:22:02 UTC  

certainly it shows from what you send

2019-06-18 19:28:17 UTC  

Man wouldn't it be cool to belong to the same church as Charlemagne

2019-06-18 19:29:00 UTC  

Charlemagne and Christopher Lee are hanging out together in heaven right now

2019-06-18 19:29:02 UTC  

Well we where under communion back then

2019-06-18 19:30:08 UTC  

Let's not get into that but the excommunication was lifted like 50 years ago

2019-06-18 19:30:32 UTC  

true

2019-06-18 19:30:56 UTC  

with the Greek Churches at least

2019-06-18 19:31:05 UTC  

The entire EO community

2019-06-18 19:31:26 UTC  

Slavs are still Anathematize Catholics if I'm not mistaken every Orthodox sunday

2019-06-18 19:31:39 UTC  

But there's questions of if the excommunication is even valid in the first place

2019-06-18 19:31:52 UTC  

Most likely it wasn't as both the pope

2019-06-18 19:31:53 UTC  

Because the papal legation only has authority from the pope that sends them

2019-06-18 19:31:57 UTC  

and the bishop of greeks

2019-06-18 19:31:57 UTC  

died

2019-06-18 19:32:00 UTC  

Leo had died already

2019-06-18 19:32:24 UTC  

So Cardinal Humbert didn't actually have the authority anymore

2019-06-18 19:32:42 UTC  

He'd have to go back to Rome and wait for a new pope before he could do that

2019-06-18 19:32:56 UTC  

And since he only did it to one person I don't think that would extend very far anyway

2019-06-18 19:32:59 UTC  

It was just wrong actions from both parties that led to schism from 1054 and the great schism in 1204 after the destruction of Constantinople and the 50 years rule of the latins in ERE

2019-06-18 19:33:32 UTC  

It just spread hostility

2019-06-18 19:33:43 UTC  

Despite all the negativity around Vatican II it did bring some good things for yall

2019-06-18 19:34:09 UTC  

Well in 2000 or 1970 Don't remember the exact date

2019-06-18 19:34:13 UTC  

When EO churches rejoin they maintain their traditional rites now

2019-06-18 19:34:21 UTC  

one of your pope asked for forgiveness from our church while he came to Greece too

2019-06-18 19:35:41 UTC  

Well, our church and I can tell it with 100% dose of truth would never join under a pope, not only because of that but for some decrees like filioque, they just don't accept them and they anathematize them as all orthodox

2019-06-18 19:37:08 UTC  

But I believe Ecumenism with Rome Catholicism could work, you guys retain everything you have, we retain everything we have and independence and we are in communion. We don't have anything to lose from that and it would be a strong alliance for the days that will come

2019-06-18 19:43:38 UTC  

Filioque can work but maybe not in English. It would take an ecumenical council to define it in a way that works with both

2019-06-18 19:44:08 UTC  

Most of the Eastern Catholic Churches used to be EO but rejoined, some relatively recently

2019-06-18 19:44:20 UTC  

They don't use filioque