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2017-07-07 16:04:56 UTC  

Really makes you think

2017-07-07 16:07:31 UTC  

Predicting a Majority-Muslim Russia

by Daniel Pipes
Sat, 6 Aug 2005
updated Tue, 23 Dec 2008


"Russia's Turning Muslim, Says Mufti" is the startling headline in the Times of London today. Ravil Gaynutdin, head of the Council of Muftis of Russia, announced that Russia's population of 144 million contains 23 million ethnic Muslims – and not, as the census indicates, 14.5 million, or, as the Orthodox Church estimates, nearer to 20 million. An estimated 3-4 million Muslims are migrants from former Soviet regions, including 2 million Azeris, 1 million Kazakhs, and several hundred thousand Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz."

"Goble notes the exponential growth in Islam since the demise of the Soviet Union: Russia had about 300 mosques in 1991 and now there are at least 8,000, about half of which were built with money from abroad, especially from Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia. There were no Islamic religious schools in 1991 and today there are between 50 and 60, teaching as many as 50,000 students. The number of Russians going on the hajj each year, has jumped from 40 in 1991 to 13,500 in 2005. He quotes a Russian commentator predicting that within the next several decades there will be a mosque on Red Square."


"By 2015, Muslims will make up a majority of Russia's conscript army, and by 2020 a fifth of the population."

2017-07-07 16:08:04 UTC  

Ethnographers: Russia will have a Muslim majority “within our lifetime”

DURBAN, South Africa- Paul Goble, vice Dean of Social Sciences and Humanities at Concordia-Audentes University in Tallinn, Estonia said ethnographers predict that Russia will have a Muslim majority “within our lifetime"

"He said that 2.5 million to 3.5 million Muslims now live in Moscow, giving Moscow the largest Muslim population of any city in Europe.

Russia today has more than 8,000 mosques, up from just 300 in 1991.

"Experts predict that by 2010 some 40 percent of Russian military conscripts will be Muslim."

2017-07-07 16:08:16 UTC  

There are less than 10% of muslims in populations right now, and it grows not so high

2017-07-07 16:08:22 UTC  

it grows tho

2017-07-07 16:09:29 UTC  

Among the critical questions being discussed by these experts, worth mentioning is the issue of conscription for military service. The question is mostly discussed by Muslim actors and on Muslim websites, which insist that Muslims will represent almost half of the Russian population by 2050. [30] The demographic rise of North Caucasian populations will indeed create a baby-boom effect in 2020, and this will accelerate the gap between ethnic Russians and minorities. [31] Given the size of the cohorts of young people and the generations of childbearing age, Russia will soon have a growing proportion of young men who are up for military service who belong to peoples of Muslim traditions. Already in 2010, 60 percent of all conscripts from the military district of Volga-Urals who claimed to be practicing religious believers were Muslim. [32] In about 10 to 20 years, the majority of conscripts to the Russian army will be of Muslim background. However, the topic is not widely discussed in the Russian media or expert publications, probably because of its sensitivity. Even if the Russian authorities do not want to open a public debate on it, they have been taking measures to deal with the new phenomenon. In 2010 the Russian media mentioned a “Muslim riot,” when about a hundred conscripts from the North Caucasus based in the Perm region refused to follow orders. [33] The same year the Army Headquarters decided for the first time to create mono-ethnic military brigades in order to avoid interethnic tensions. [34]

2017-07-07 16:10:10 UTC  

Source

2017-07-07 16:10:34 UTC  

Saying "it's not that bad" is not an argument

2017-07-07 16:10:42 UTC  

It's mostly foreign and muslim sources. And how is it going to be a baby-boom effect in 2020, if there is going to be a slowing of growth generally across all post-soviet countries in 2020's

2017-07-07 16:10:43 UTC  

I am providing facts and statistics

2017-07-07 16:10:59 UTC  

I doubt you've read all those sources so quickly

2017-07-07 16:11:07 UTC  

Most of them

2017-07-07 16:11:12 UTC  

That video is misleading as fuck

2017-07-07 16:11:15 UTC  

Is that really your argument, that they must be incorrect because most of them are in English?

2017-07-07 16:11:21 UTC  

Wrong, it's sourced in the description

2017-07-07 16:11:49 UTC  

Chechnya is a shithole

2017-07-07 16:12:03 UTC  

@Greg88 you vouch for mccrabby

2017-07-07 16:12:55 UTC  

There are more Muslims in Russia than people in my entire country

2017-07-07 16:13:44 UTC  

Russia is twice as Islamised as Sweden and we mock Sweden

2017-07-07 16:14:03 UTC  

There are more Hindus in India than white people in the world

2017-07-07 16:14:24 UTC  

India is a shitskin country, Russia is a European (sort of) country

2017-07-07 16:14:45 UTC  

If Russia keeps becoming more Islamised then Europe is blocked on all sides

2017-07-07 16:15:01 UTC  

On the south from north africa, the east from the middle east and turkey, and the north from russiastan

2017-07-07 16:15:38 UTC  

Russia is lost at this point

2017-07-07 16:15:53 UTC  

Communism fucked them up to the point that they couldn't recover

2017-07-07 16:16:00 UTC  

They have the GDP of Italy

2017-07-07 16:16:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/332917764698406913/Soviet_Union_GDP.gif

2017-07-07 16:16:22 UTC  

It's just sad

2017-07-07 16:16:25 UTC  

That's their economy

2017-07-07 16:16:27 UTC  

I'm vetting btw

2017-07-07 16:16:37 UTC  

It's a pity

2017-07-07 16:16:39 UTC  

dms me if you want lurker or vetted roles

2017-07-07 16:16:45 UTC  

Imperial Russia was the world's 4th economy

2017-07-07 16:17:06 UTC  

The Eternal Kraut saw them as a threat because of their manpower and industrialisation

2017-07-07 16:17:26 UTC  

Which is why they sent them Communism, which really wasn't supposed to be anything more than a temporary destabilising agent

2017-07-07 16:17:46 UTC  

krauts also wanted refugee cock and were afraid the Russians would kill them first

2017-07-07 16:17:57 UTC  

so they went to war to ensure ahmed would take their wives