``I think Trump shaking things up is a good thing.``

Sorry JustTom I don't think Trump can stop the inevitable collapse of the US and the west in general. Even if he manages to solve illegal immigration, the debt and deficit problems are here to stay. Plus we have all sorts of crisises - child care crisis. A student loan debt crisis. A housing cost crisis. A health care affordability crisis. A job security crisis. A retirement funding crisis. A Social Security crisis etc.

Sit back and enjoy the collapse my dude!

And I don't just mean people on the street, I mean organizations

oh, aye
leftists tend to hate Israel, and that sometimes overlaps with open antisemitism

it's seriously worrying

If Trump was smart he would come out to, not necessarily take ownership of this, but just say that he will be extra careful going forward and admonish all Trump supporters to stop violent rhetoric and say that if you do, he would come down hard on them. I hope he takes the high road and not try to double down. But Trump is Trump.

what?

no that would be very very dumb

why?

He has the massive amount of support because of how he acts and how he refuses to backdown or give in to the left

No one against trump will support him, no matter what he does

@realChainLife Oh you're right. Trump alone can't stop what we're getting to. I can't deny that. However, Trump CAN set a policy globally that will cause the eventual revolution to be extreme enough to right the planet (hopefully), and set up the US so that when our eventual revolution comes, we'll still have our US culture and ideals.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

It's just a question of what we'll have after our upcoming refresh.

Saying this is giving into the left?

it would be seen as such

Of course it is

CNN ran a headline which said "turmp has no plans to take responsibility for the bombs"

Did trump make the bombs? did he tell the guy to make and send the bombs?

No, but thats how the media presents it and by going along with it trump would be lending credibility to their narrative

He should not take responsibility, rather encourage folks to not use this kind of talk, and he himself will be careful going forward. This is not giving in ... rather showing leadership.

Nope its giving in

LOL, suit yourself ...

You can see the countless times the media has asked trump to stop using the language he uses

He can still say FAKE NEWS ... just stop the body slam comments ...

the left wouldn't acknowledge it
the right would see it as weakness

What would he gain by doing this then

Who would support him that doenst support him already?

Never give in to lefties or apologize to them, they have a track record of not accepting it and then demanding more anyhow.

Try to defuse the narrative. But whatever ... suit yourself ...

Defuse it how?

This one time he gives in and then what does he do?

No one on the left will support him, theyll just demand more apologies for all the other things hes ever said

@Beemann , well the Star of David is on the flag. I'm not sure in what context you mean conflate. Israel is based in Zionism. That's how it was founded.

That's just history

defusing and deescalating would be nice, but trump is in no position to do so

i think if there's anything we should have learned by now it's that acquiescing to a mob doesn't work.

or rather, he would be doing so by sacrificing his support

Are you following a man and his tough talk or the policies?

There are people who follow both and who follow one or the other

Don't say both ...

u beat me to it ..

Is it impossible for people to follow both or is it just inconvenient for your viewpoint?

No, the two are not necessarily linked .... but suite yourself ....