And he's done lots of unambiguous good.

Fuck Kasich. That's my thought.

Kasich is a loser ....

He always calls or praises who do violent acts

I think his actions supporting despots is causing harm. See North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

Kasich is a democrat's idea of the ideal republican. A useless bland loser.

Atkins, yes ...LOL.

Again, praising despots and insulting democratic leaders.

How is that a good thing?

Alright. The alternative to trying to make a deal with North Korea was **THERMONUCLEAR WAR**.

Cat, I think you are stretching a bit.

North Korea didn't have to guys to do it

They know if they did there would be no North Korea

And as far as Saudi Arabia goes, it doesn't matter if we sell them weapons or not. They're still going to be despots. Except they'll be despots with more French weapons.

But what difference did Trump make? Pyongyang is still doing exactly what they were doing but now Trump is tied down by his fawning praise of Kim.

The French and EU are whacking SA more than the US

The difference is **NO THERMONUCLEAR WAR**

I'm too old to get reactivated thank you very much.

"Pyongyang is still doing exactly what they were doing but now " Huh? They were launching missiles ever other week. Again you are stretching.

And do we honestly think the Saudi kingdom is going to turn to Russia or China?

What do you want to do with the Saudis? Topple them? Ignore them? What?

Personally I don't think we can do anything to change their behavior, so why not make money off them if they're going to be asshats regardless?

We do nothing with the Saudis ...

Business as usual ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/un-iaea-north-korea-nuclear/index.html

Besides, the current Crown Prince is a bit of a reformer. Women can drive now, and movie theaters are allowed.

I find myself not able to respond this this. I don't like it.

NK is a Trump success. They are talking more than they have ever have. Sanctions are still on. And the alternative? What you want to go to war with NK?

By the way, am I the only one around here who admits when she's been backed into a corner?

I suppose that's not a "strong" trait, is it?

War with NK would be a disaster for SK and Japan, so no of course. But it from my perspective it looks like Kim is playing Trump.

Am I now going to have to swallow the "Trump is actually a genius" stuff?

For sure, but the alternative?

I'm not close to biting that yet

How about working with China to keep holding NK accountable instead of starting a (trade) war with China. Convincing China that NK is more trouble than they are worth and that a Chinese installed puppet regime would be better for Beijing. That was what China was preparing for until Kim killed his cousin in Macau.

So why would China do this? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

Nobody is expecting you to say "Trump is a genius". We're expecting you to say the sky isn't falling and maybe things are going to be OK.

Because the media and the left want you to believe that everything is worse than it has ever been and that we're two seconds away from sending people to death camps.

It's tiresome.

NK, Trump's approach was unorthodox, but turn out ok.

In reality, the economy is fine. In reality, there's relatively little conflict in the world and what conflict there is is decreasing. In reality, there is no major push from the administration to criminalize abortion, or abolish gay marriage, or revive Jim Crow, or whatever other nonsense the left is pushing.