But then again, I'm trying my best to learn why Trump's poor behavior is a good thing

Really, I'm trying. It's...not easy.

Trump's behavior gets shit done.

Acting like a weakling who is trying to just make everyone get along means the democrats win everything. And the democrats winning everything will turn the country into a fucking dystopia.

Not convinced Trump runs in 2020.

Only way he doesn't is if he croaks.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-using-blowtorch-to-kill-spiders-starts-house-fire

This guy got the job done, too. Not sure if the "win' was worth it, though.

I see Trump as akin to this guy,.

Maybe, he may see the polls and think why bother. Raise your hand declare victory and leave on a high.

See, this kind of ridiculous hyperbole ain't helping your case. Trump hasn't caused any measurable harm except for his 'tone'

Anyone here thought about Kasich?

And he's done lots of unambiguous good.

Fuck Kasich. That's my thought.

Kasich is a loser ....

He always calls or praises who do violent acts

I think his actions supporting despots is causing harm. See North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

Kasich is a democrat's idea of the ideal republican. A useless bland loser.

Atkins, yes ...LOL.

Again, praising despots and insulting democratic leaders.

How is that a good thing?

Alright. The alternative to trying to make a deal with North Korea was **THERMONUCLEAR WAR**.

Cat, I think you are stretching a bit.

North Korea didn't have to guys to do it

They know if they did there would be no North Korea

And as far as Saudi Arabia goes, it doesn't matter if we sell them weapons or not. They're still going to be despots. Except they'll be despots with more French weapons.

But what difference did Trump make? Pyongyang is still doing exactly what they were doing but now Trump is tied down by his fawning praise of Kim.

The French and EU are whacking SA more than the US

The difference is **NO THERMONUCLEAR WAR**

I'm too old to get reactivated thank you very much.

"Pyongyang is still doing exactly what they were doing but now " Huh? They were launching missiles ever other week. Again you are stretching.

And do we honestly think the Saudi kingdom is going to turn to Russia or China?

What do you want to do with the Saudis? Topple them? Ignore them? What?

Personally I don't think we can do anything to change their behavior, so why not make money off them if they're going to be asshats regardless?

We do nothing with the Saudis ...

Business as usual ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/un-iaea-north-korea-nuclear/index.html

Besides, the current Crown Prince is a bit of a reformer. Women can drive now, and movie theaters are allowed.

I find myself not able to respond this this. I don't like it.

NK is a Trump success. They are talking more than they have ever have. Sanctions are still on. And the alternative? What you want to go to war with NK?

By the way, am I the only one around here who admits when she's been backed into a corner?

I suppose that's not a "strong" trait, is it?