Message from @HeimatFreiheitTradition

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2016-12-28 04:10:30 UTC  

have you read the word grok yet?

2016-12-28 04:10:52 UTC  

grok = to share water, but also to commune in a deep way

2016-12-28 04:11:23 UTC  

Fair Witnesses = awesome invention! purely dispassionate observers, only relaying what *can* be known from a perspective

2016-12-28 04:11:57 UTC  

as far as I got it, grok = deep understanding, being immersed in the thing-ness of a concept

2016-12-28 04:12:09 UTC  

/ or person or thing

2016-12-28 04:12:15 UTC  

exactly, and throught them Heinlein makes us question what is being presented to us, and even more importantly makes us as WHO is giving us information

2016-12-28 04:12:29 UTC  

yea you seem to grok the concept of grok 😃

2016-12-28 04:13:27 UTC  

In undergrad I had to take a class on Statistics for Engineers and Scientists, and the teacher was a woman named Dr. Kelley and she would work a problem on the board, then turn around and make sure we grokked it - and yes she used the word. She was awesome

2016-12-28 04:13:39 UTC  

best stats class ever

2016-12-28 04:14:08 UTC  

"Have SPace Suit, Will Travel" = REQUIRED PRECURSOR READING

2016-12-28 04:14:13 UTC  

yes, to me, grokking is most apparent in math

2016-12-28 04:14:26 UTC  

the moment it switches from symbol-pushing to concept-manipulating

2016-12-28 04:14:31 UTC  

is the moment of grokking

2016-12-28 04:14:35 UTC  

true Brett, I do love that story. his YA was so under rated i think

2016-12-28 04:14:54 UTC  

AGREED ENTIRELY

2016-12-28 04:15:00 UTC  

HE WROTE "YA" LIKE TOLKIEN DID

2016-12-28 04:15:08 UTC  

I.E. SPANNING CHILDHOOD TO ADULTHOOD

2016-12-28 04:15:21 UTC  

NOT THE MILQUETOAST SHIT THE FEMME MFAs PUMP OUT THESE DAYS

2016-12-28 04:15:24 UTC  

yea, it was allegedly for young pepole, but older people would read it and find value and meaning in his words as well

2016-12-28 04:15:44 UTC  

my favorite YA (is it?) novel is Bradbury's Dandelion Wine

2016-12-28 04:15:47 UTC  

MFA's should all be beaten with a stick until they repay their absurd student loans

2016-12-28 04:15:51 UTC  

have either of you read it?

2016-12-28 04:16:02 UTC  

yea Dandelion Wine is YA usually, so is THe Halloween Tree

2016-12-28 04:16:09 UTC  

I've read it

2016-12-28 04:16:12 UTC  

YES BUT LIKE 25 YEARS AGO

2016-12-28 04:16:22 UTC  

AM A LARGE FAN OF THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES HOWEVER

2016-12-28 04:17:01 UTC  

I like the martian chronicles, but as far as space opera (would it be proper to call it space opera? /discuss) I prefer A Princess of Mars

2016-12-28 04:17:45 UTC  

haven't read it. my recent fav space opera is the Hyperion series - though mostly the first entry

2016-12-28 04:18:21 UTC  

NO, WOULD NOT CALL THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES SPACE OPERA

2016-12-28 04:18:24 UTC  

Hyperion? Was that the James S.A. Corey serise?

2016-12-28 04:18:27 UTC  

IT IS A TRAGEDY IN THE GREEK SENSE

2016-12-28 04:18:34 UTC  

no, the Dan Simmons one

2016-12-28 04:18:39 UTC  

TMC IS UNDERRATED AS LITERATURE IMHO

2016-12-28 04:18:41 UTC  

oh ok. yea i don't have those yet

2016-12-28 04:19:26 UTC  

TMC was very good. I love Bradbury and genuinly cried a little when he died. then I wanted to kick Neil Gaiman in the dick for being a smug cocksucker and bragging about how Bradbury consider him a son

2016-12-28 04:21:29 UTC  

and of course The Forever War. for me perhaps the best "space marines" book I've read. Personally found it more thoughtful than Startship Troopers

2016-12-28 04:21:42 UTC  

but maybe I didn't appreciate the finer aspects of the latter back when I read it

2016-12-28 04:22:27 UTC  

I liked TFW, but the ending is a total fucking cop out. He should have just let the female in the book die of old age, would have been more in line with what the book's ethos was about.

2016-12-28 04:22:36 UTC  

yes