Message from @Niveron

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2018-10-25 05:59:27 UTC  

That's him

2018-10-25 12:53:14 UTC  

Imagine Germany walking into France and Ukraine and finding former SS foreign legion members.

2018-10-25 12:54:31 UTC  

krauts would find a lot of bandera lovers in shitkraine

2018-10-25 12:55:02 UTC  

Stepan Bandera was the number 1 nazi collaborator of slavmalian origin.

2018-10-25 12:59:17 UTC  

Over half of the SS were foreign.

2018-10-25 13:01:05 UTC  

and most of them later were sent to concentration camps

2018-10-25 13:01:20 UTC  

or at least bits of the Latvian SS

2018-10-25 13:03:30 UTC  

Russian camps

2018-10-25 13:03:38 UTC  

nope

2018-10-25 13:03:43 UTC  

kraut camps as well

2018-10-25 13:04:43 UTC  

the Lithuanian author Balys Sruoga wrote about this in the book "Forest of the Gods", where he retells his experiences in the Stuthoff concentration camp.

2018-10-25 13:09:00 UTC  

but the truth most likely lies deep within kraut or russian archives, if any documentation at all had survived the commie flood of the time.

2018-10-25 13:09:25 UTC  

the retards commading them blew up medieval castles for fucks sake.

2018-10-25 13:10:37 UTC  

I can find nothing indicating that Sruoga was actually in the SS

2018-10-25 13:10:53 UTC  

Consider that he was 43 when the war started

2018-10-25 13:10:57 UTC  

he wasn't

2018-10-25 13:11:04 UTC  

he was a political prisoner

2018-10-25 13:12:15 UTC  

there were attempts to form a Lithuanian SS legion, but it failed.

2018-10-25 13:13:55 UTC  

I said over half of the SS were foreign, you said most were sent to concentration camps

2018-10-25 13:14:13 UTC  

I took that to mean you said most SS men were sent to concentration camps

2018-10-25 13:16:04 UTC  

I believe foreign SS members were sent to lagers either after they exhausted their use, or tried to rebel, however, without examining the proper documentation it's impossible to state it, so it's mostly a hypothesis.

2018-10-25 13:16:13 UTC  

Foreign SS recruits had to be age 17-45 so any foreigner born 1896 had to join before 1941

2018-10-25 13:17:10 UTC  

No such thing as exhausted their use on the Eastern Front, note the use of Hitlerjugend in the last days

2018-10-25 13:17:30 UTC  

and the afromention book may be a questionable source, because soviet censorship fucked with the manuscript.

2018-10-25 13:18:41 UTC  

they were pretty desperate in the last days, true

2018-10-25 13:19:23 UTC  

another hypothesis could be that the krauts just used them to commit war crimes, then whacked them afterwards.

2018-10-25 13:20:09 UTC  

but most likely the lot of them were sent head first into the red army's mg nests.

2018-10-25 13:20:59 UTC  

No. They were used as soldiers, not cannon fodder. No different than national units or the army

2018-10-25 13:21:46 UTC  

The SS that managed the concentration camps was separate from the fighting units

2018-10-25 13:22:02 UTC  

And easily confused by being called SS-VT and SS-TV

2018-10-25 13:22:30 UTC  

Anything you see with SS-TV is Holocaust stuff

2018-10-25 13:22:51 UTC  

SS-VT were later renamed Waffen-SS and were fighting men

2018-10-25 13:24:01 UTC  

SS-TV were distinguished by the death's head on their collar

2018-10-25 13:28:16 UTC  

The W-SS 3rd Panzer Division was made up of former TV, and did a lot of horrible things. The 13th, 21st, and 23rd Mountain Divisions were made up of eastern Euro Muslims who committed the vast majority of war crimes in eastern Europe outside of the camps

2018-10-25 13:30:09 UTC  

that's pretty interesting stuff, however, to study that here as a historian pretty much means a career suicide if you fail to comply with the current dogmas.

2018-10-25 13:31:33 UTC  

Same in America

2018-10-25 13:32:05 UTC  

Those Muslims units were the only religious troops. They didn't have chaplains in other SS units

2018-10-25 13:33:28 UTC  

Studying the WW2 and post war here, goes pretty much like this: Krauts - good, jewshooting never happened(Lietukis garage pogrom), russia evil. no deviations allowed.

2018-10-25 13:33:45 UTC  

Wow

2018-10-25 13:33:50 UTC  

that's why as a history major, I'm taking medieval studies more or less

2018-10-25 13:33:54 UTC  

Interesting, it's the exact opposite here