Yes and no. Atheism is toxic to countries and families. It's a pylon that if you remove you can't have a healthy society as families would crumble with it. Agnosticism is not atheism per see. You still believe that god might exist as you don't have a hard evidence (in our lifes at least) that he exists but or not. I don't have a problem with agnosticism and I embrace it. But Atheism is a laughable stock for me.

I place societal norms on evolution and naturalism.

Homosexuality is objectively inferior and degenerate.

Feminism is objectively the bane of proper hierarchy

Anyway

I need to catch my bus

Brb

The problem is that atheism leads to moral relativism. Which in turn destroys the family and allows feminism and homosexuality to spread. Then the society is replaced by the antithesis culture, because “all cultures are equal.”

Exactly

Personally I don’t “hate” the unbeliever. I would love for society to be libertarian. Allow everyone to live and let live. But without the building block of the family, society crumbles.

So authoritarianism is needed, at least a small amount, to preserve the family unit.

Dunno Libertarian Societies is a double-edged sword. If you hurt the holy trinity (Religion/Culture/Family) everything will fall apart soon or later

right now we see the decline because we abandoned the trinity long ago

We give a place for the ((())) to let their cancer multiply without having something to suffocate it. What you would call degeneracy back when I was a kid, right now is normal to do. And I'm only 20 so I'm not that big too

Yeah. I’ve noticed there’s a big change in society in like 5 year time spans. Since I’ve been alive. I’m 31.

There’s very little I have in common with my 23 (?) year old brother.

Well, I don't even have something common with people that are 2-4 years younger then me right now. It's rare to find a person that I can communicate on the same vibe that is younger then me

We have similar conservatism in common. But music, movies, TV shows and stuff are wildly different.

The addition of smart phones changed his age group.

He was getting nudes from girls his freshman year of high school.

It was on my dad’s phone too 🤣

Dad had to get the numbers blocked and messages removed so he wouldn’t be fucked with

xD

Not to say my age group didn’t do something comparable. I mean we had email and cameras. But your basic “THOT” isn’t smart enough to get adapters and memory card for their cameras.

So it wasn’t as wide spread in my area.

Well, yeah. Even in my age we had thots and girls getting over from their 12. But that was just rare.

But in just mere 10 years everything just changed too rapidly.

Evolution includes rape so we can't base morals on that

Over half of all chimp copulations are forced. I'm referring to the animal, not the ninja

Probably true for both though

Thus societal norms cannot be based on evolution or naturalism. Whether or not a religion is true is a related but different debate

But to deny the fact that morality comes from religion is ridiculous

Lack of faith this days it's just show how true is this

I remember a Bugs Bunny cartoon that depicted Benjamin Franklin, Bugs asked him what he was doing, and he said "I'm trying to discover electricity". That is as ridiculous as saying morality just comes from nowhere

Subjective morality cannot be morality at all. Objective morality must be a definite standard and what gives a man the authority to say what is right except being appointed by God?

For if a man were to give that power to another man, what makes him any better than you or me?

I base my morality on the healthiest choice of action.

Is homosexuality healthy? No.
Is murder healthy? No.
Is theft healthy? No.
Is lying healthy? No.
Is adultery healthy? No.
Is whoring around healthy? No.
Is gluttony healthy? No.

Don't need a god for that.

Replace healthy with sustainable and you basically have my stance. There are minor exceptions to everything but as a rule things that cant stand alone arent great life choices. You dont need religion to have morals and honestly the more time goes own even the church is bowing to "subjective morality". Regardless of what you think about the pope he is still the pope.

What's the Pope have to do with it?