Hell going from long to short doesnt even effect accuracy

22 lbs for a SAW, or 9 lbs for a M27

Saw weighs like 12 to 16 lbs...

Loaded

And even still that only matters on long distances and really only to new people using the weapon

Then you also neglected to mention the m27 only has 30 rounds to the full size SAWs 200...

That's a lot of weight for your arms

Yes the capacity is a problem and they need to address it with a larger mag

The real weight difference would only be 7 lbs considering you would have 7 mags on the kit

The weight is a non issue for someone who is physically fit

Im not even that big and it hardly slows me down. Compare that to someone who dumb bell presses 150 in each hand? Its fucking nothing.

That's the weight of a gallon of milk

And?

Attach a gallon of milk to the receiver of your rifle

You'll feel the difference

Not when I was a 240 gunner most the time

A SAW felt like an M4 to me and an M4 felt like a pistol.

This is when you are already loaded down with 30 to 40lbs of gear

You arent running around in gym clothes

The difference between running around with 49 lbs to 62lbs is negligible

Maybe for you. For us ordinary people it's noticeable

And thats assuming you arent carrying extra water, a radio, at4, grenades, ammo or anything else period

Gustav, javelin, breach tools, shotguns etc etc

So what it comes doen to is that you think military should act like soldiers are normal civilians and take things normal civilians think are hard into account despite being soldiers?

If you want to buy a m27 over a saw be my fucking guest but dont act like your reasoning applies to the military. Jesus christ.

We had to bring a fucking M2 with us once for fucks sake and here you are bitching about a 13lb difference.

More weight = not good = less efficiency

There's no amount of NCO bitching and "get the sand out of your clit" that will change physics and nature

13lbs isnt a lot for anyone trained

You are talking about losses under a percent

That m2 mission? Sure no question we would get fucked up maneuver wise.

Having a saw?

Not really at all.

Its a question of individual fitness at that point

A 300 pt score soldier with a saw will out maneuver a 250 all day.

And even if they are the same fitness level you cant just outmaneuver what amounts to 4 extra rifles unless you are a goddamned super hero and you know it.

I mean really who do you think would win a firefight, 3 rifles and a M27 or 3 rifles and a SAW? Only the weapon and the ammo it carries.

Its not track and field its war. Maneuver speed because of the weapon means little unless it was compounded by something like also not wearing helmet or armour and employing serious guerrilla tactics.

I dunno where you're getting 62 lbs from. Our saw gunners carried like 80

That would then boost up the m27s numers to 56 provided they only have 7 mags and no one had any extra weight that also weighted them down

In my experience gunners will have the least weight on average