Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-26 20:30:33 UTC  

The SAW is a severely cut down lmg, it isnt as heavy as 240 or m60. It also isnt compared on a 1 to 1 basis with the M4, it is compared in squad vs squad.

2018-09-26 20:30:34 UTC  

Swapping barrels losing zero, and you shouldn't need to shoot enough to need a barrel change anyway

2018-09-26 20:30:53 UTC  

You dont lose your zero

2018-09-26 20:31:28 UTC  

Every barrel is different

2018-09-26 20:31:36 UTC  

And you shouldnt shoot enough on mission

2018-09-26 20:31:39 UTC  

No two barrels are completely alike

2018-09-26 20:31:47 UTC  

You can shoot that much on base

2018-09-26 20:32:39 UTC  

And while true the saw isnt a precision weapon. While it will shoot differently you will still hit the same as any SAW

2018-09-26 20:32:59 UTC  

Hell going from long to short doesnt even effect accuracy

2018-09-26 20:33:04 UTC  

22 lbs for a SAW, or 9 lbs for a M27

2018-09-26 20:33:32 UTC  

Saw weighs like 12 to 16 lbs...

2018-09-26 20:34:22 UTC  

Loaded

2018-09-26 20:34:31 UTC  

And even still that only matters on long distances and really only to new people using the weapon

2018-09-26 20:35:22 UTC  

Then you also neglected to mention the m27 only has 30 rounds to the full size SAWs 200...

2018-09-26 20:35:40 UTC  

That's a lot of weight for your arms

2018-09-26 20:35:56 UTC  

Yes the capacity is a problem and they need to address it with a larger mag

2018-09-26 20:36:10 UTC  

The real weight difference would only be 7 lbs considering you would have 7 mags on the kit

2018-09-26 20:36:54 UTC  

The weight is a non issue for someone who is physically fit

2018-09-26 20:38:02 UTC  

Im not even that big and it hardly slows me down. Compare that to someone who dumb bell presses 150 in each hand? Its fucking nothing.

2018-09-26 20:38:06 UTC  

That's the weight of a gallon of milk

2018-09-26 20:38:12 UTC  

And?

2018-09-26 20:38:23 UTC  

Attach a gallon of milk to the receiver of your rifle

2018-09-26 20:38:27 UTC  

You'll feel the difference

2018-09-26 20:38:46 UTC  

Not when I was a 240 gunner most the time

2018-09-26 20:39:11 UTC  

A SAW felt like an M4 to me and an M4 felt like a pistol.

2018-09-26 20:39:55 UTC  

This is when you are already loaded down with 30 to 40lbs of gear

2018-09-26 20:40:10 UTC  

You arent running around in gym clothes

2018-09-26 20:41:29 UTC  

The difference between running around with 49 lbs to 62lbs is negligible

2018-09-26 20:42:57 UTC  

Maybe for you. For us ordinary people it's noticeable

2018-09-26 20:43:03 UTC  

And thats assuming you arent carrying extra water, a radio, at4, grenades, ammo or anything else period

2018-09-26 20:43:45 UTC  

Gustav, javelin, breach tools, shotguns etc etc

2018-09-26 20:44:47 UTC  

So what it comes doen to is that you think military should act like soldiers are normal civilians and take things normal civilians think are hard into account despite being soldiers?

2018-09-26 20:46:47 UTC  

If you want to buy a m27 over a saw be my fucking guest but dont act like your reasoning applies to the military. Jesus christ.

2018-09-26 20:48:01 UTC  

We had to bring a fucking M2 with us once for fucks sake and here you are bitching about a 13lb difference.

2018-09-26 20:49:31 UTC  

More weight = not good = less efficiency

2018-09-26 20:49:51 UTC  

There's no amount of NCO bitching and "get the sand out of your clit" that will change physics and nature

2018-09-26 20:50:18 UTC  

13lbs isnt a lot for anyone trained

2018-09-26 20:50:41 UTC  

You are talking about losses under a percent

2018-09-26 20:51:18 UTC  

That m2 mission? Sure no question we would get fucked up maneuver wise.

2018-09-26 20:51:34 UTC  

Having a saw?

2018-09-26 20:51:51 UTC  

Not really at all.