Message from @Iakovos
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My point is - he was loyal to Hitler until he turned out to be a backstabbing traitor like the rest of the fickle population.
Because you were losing a war? Ah, but the ideals were spectacular.
In Rommel's defence most of those plots emerged after Germany got stuck in a war with half of the planet.
Danzig belonged to Germany anyway.
Not getting into an argument of adherence to authority that you don't agree with and so on and so forth, but the point remains.
I don't understand what you mean by "adherence to authority that I don't agree with."
Not _you_, specifically, just saying that Rommel's betrayal - in implication, I don't think we're so knowledgeable of his exact role - is fairly understandable if the objective was to replace the government to force a peace deal. I was only saying I wished to skip past any kind of argument over one obeying an authority that one did not believe in or thought was wrong and if that is justified or not.
I can see your point, though when you fight so hard for someone, and then turn around and lose a war, and so by your own failings you betray your leader? That's sick. That's all I'm saying
But yeah, we can skip past that.
In any case, if you're going to start posting "proper" Nazis, I'd recommend Speer or Funk. Not the most... well known of the party, but they're not as... _unique_ looking as the more commonly sighted.
And not really implicated in occultism or the SS and stuff.
How about this bastard?
...yeah I think that's just going to scare people.
If you really want to advocate the ideas of national socialism, you might want to pick people not like Himmler.
At all.
Hitler didn't even like this slimeball.
My point is, this guy was immoral. Hitler didn't even like him.
...I don't think anyone did, really.
*Especially the Jews*
Honestly I'm still trying to figure it all out, really. I like the ideas of Nationalism/National Socialism the most, as they resonate with my moral beliefs anyhow.
...debatably.
Hitler was paying Jews and Hippies to go back to their homeland.
There was a division known as the Arab Legion, where they worked with Muslims to secure ground in Africa. It wasn't racism, it was to nationalize the German people.
Keep people in their own region.
I suspect concentration camps came about shortly before the war because things were about to kick off, and then they starved because it was more important to feed soldiers on the frontline than prisoners.
Prisoners who explicitly refused payment to leave the country
I'm not going to address all the other implications in this, but I'll only point out that giving someone a lot of money to leave their home and go to another country that they've never lived in is not the most agreeable offer.
I can agree that it isn't.
I'd say it's a _little more_ than presumptuous to phrase it like that.
But the Jews also ruined the country.
Why else did he target them? For Christ's sake the man was a Christian.
_highly debatable_
Sure.
(inb4 we get screeches that Catholics aren't Christian in the first place)
Catholics are Christian, lmao. Personally, I'm agnostic. I don't care much for religion.
idk why people say they aren't
i see people distinct Catholicism from Christianity sometimes, and it confuses me
"I"m not Christian I'm Baptist!"
it's just ignorance
lol