Message from @Iakovos

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2018-06-06 03:26:17 UTC  

Danzig belonged to Germany anyway.

2018-06-06 03:26:19 UTC  

Not getting into an argument of adherence to authority that you don't agree with and so on and so forth, but the point remains.

2018-06-06 03:27:49 UTC  

I don't understand what you mean by "adherence to authority that I don't agree with."

2018-06-06 03:29:25 UTC  

Not _you_, specifically, just saying that Rommel's betrayal - in implication, I don't think we're so knowledgeable of his exact role - is fairly understandable if the objective was to replace the government to force a peace deal. I was only saying I wished to skip past any kind of argument over one obeying an authority that one did not believe in or thought was wrong and if that is justified or not.

2018-06-06 03:30:44 UTC  

I can see your point, though when you fight so hard for someone, and then turn around and lose a war, and so by your own failings you betray your leader? That's sick. That's all I'm saying

2018-06-06 03:30:50 UTC  

But yeah, we can skip past that.

2018-06-06 03:32:01 UTC  

In any case, if you're going to start posting "proper" Nazis, I'd recommend Speer or Funk. Not the most... well known of the party, but they're not as... _unique_ looking as the more commonly sighted.

2018-06-06 03:32:15 UTC  

And not really implicated in occultism or the SS and stuff.

2018-06-06 03:32:30 UTC  

How about this bastard?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445809665348206592/453763087078522880/Z.png

2018-06-06 03:32:44 UTC  

...yeah I think that's just going to scare people.

2018-06-06 03:33:01 UTC  

If you really want to advocate the ideas of national socialism, you might want to pick people not like Himmler.

2018-06-06 03:33:02 UTC  

At all.

2018-06-06 03:33:02 UTC  

Hitler didn't even like this slimeball.

2018-06-06 03:33:25 UTC  

My point is, this guy was immoral. Hitler didn't even like him.

2018-06-06 03:33:40 UTC  

...I don't think anyone did, really.

2018-06-06 03:33:52 UTC  

*Especially the Jews*

2018-06-06 03:35:03 UTC  

Honestly I'm still trying to figure it all out, really. I like the ideas of Nationalism/National Socialism the most, as they resonate with my moral beliefs anyhow.

2018-06-06 03:35:14 UTC  

With the exception of genocide which wasn't even part of the plan.

2018-06-06 03:35:22 UTC  

...debatably.

2018-06-06 03:35:39 UTC  

Hitler was paying Jews and Hippies to go back to their homeland.

2018-06-06 03:36:15 UTC  

There was a division known as the Arab Legion, where they worked with Muslims to secure ground in Africa. It wasn't racism, it was to nationalize the German people.

2018-06-06 03:36:32 UTC  

Keep people in their own region.

2018-06-06 03:37:24 UTC  

I suspect concentration camps came about shortly before the war because things were about to kick off, and then they starved because it was more important to feed soldiers on the frontline than prisoners.

2018-06-06 03:37:40 UTC  

Prisoners who explicitly refused payment to leave the country

2018-06-06 03:38:32 UTC  

I'm not going to address all the other implications in this, but I'll only point out that giving someone a lot of money to leave their home and go to another country that they've never lived in is not the most agreeable offer.

2018-06-06 03:38:49 UTC  

I can agree that it isn't.

2018-06-06 03:38:53 UTC  

I'd say it's a _little more_ than presumptuous to phrase it like that.

2018-06-06 03:39:00 UTC  

But the Jews also ruined the country.

2018-06-06 03:39:25 UTC  

Why else did he target them? For Christ's sake the man was a Christian.

2018-06-06 03:39:48 UTC  

_highly debatable_

2018-06-06 03:39:54 UTC  

Sure.

2018-06-06 03:40:05 UTC  

(inb4 we get screeches that Catholics aren't Christian in the first place)

2018-06-06 03:40:27 UTC  

Catholics are Christian, lmao. Personally, I'm agnostic. I don't care much for religion.

2018-06-06 03:40:53 UTC  

idk why people say they aren't

2018-06-06 03:41:09 UTC  

i see people distinct Catholicism from Christianity sometimes, and it confuses me

2018-06-06 03:41:35 UTC  

"I"m not Christian I'm Baptist!"

2018-06-06 03:41:46 UTC  

it's just ignorance

2018-06-06 03:41:51 UTC  

lol

2018-06-06 03:42:05 UTC  

i'm not even catholic, but it is weird that they do that

2018-06-06 03:42:52 UTC  

I guess the whole Protestant rebellion from Catholicism started it.

2018-06-06 03:42:56 UTC  

...not by... _necessity_. It depends on how you define Christian, and if you define it in such a way that it precludes Catholicism then Catholics can't be Christian. Same thing goes for Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons, some people say yes or no. Not really a proper comparison with how many Catholics there are but I digress.