Message from @Amadeus

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2019-02-17 23:58:29 UTC  

because Christianity does accept everyone, as long as they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and adhere to the core Christian beliefs

2019-02-17 23:59:43 UTC  

it partially stems from the exile in Babylon, because they forced themselves to become distinct and particular, and doubled down on it whenever under another society

2019-02-18 00:01:38 UTC  

There is also a tonal difference in how Christians view God and how God is depicted in the Hebrew Bible

2019-02-18 00:01:43 UTC  

Goes back to Egypt. Before they were even Israelites.

2019-02-18 00:01:46 UTC  

aka how the Jews saw Him

2019-02-18 00:02:01 UTC  

yes, but it is in Babylon where they became the "Jews"

2019-02-18 00:02:08 UTC  

rather than the Hebrews

2019-02-18 00:02:12 UTC  

Leviticus tells them to be a distinct people.

2019-02-18 00:03:43 UTC  

in the Old Testament God is more often than, I don't mean any disrespect or anything negative, but angry and violent, with His loving and merciful nature also being shown here and there -- but that is also because the Jews really screw up a lot, and other depravity occurs a lot through the Old Testament

2019-02-18 00:04:07 UTC  

God, at least from what I recall (please correct if i am wrong), is not shown to be nearly as aggressive in the New Testament until Revelation

2019-02-18 00:04:09 UTC  

why don't they sacrifice goats in temples anymore.

2019-02-18 00:04:16 UTC  

because they have rabbis

2019-02-18 00:04:17 UTC  

every jew should be sacrificing animals.

2019-02-18 00:04:21 UTC  

and the temple was destroyed

2019-02-18 00:04:27 UTC  

build a new one

2019-02-18 00:04:33 UTC  

destroyed by who?

2019-02-18 00:04:39 UTC  

the Romans i believe

2019-02-18 00:04:47 UTC  

it was destroyed twice, the last time by the Romans

2019-02-18 00:05:04 UTC  

Yeah I’m pretty sure the Romans did it.

2019-02-18 00:05:15 UTC  

i think it was the Neo-Babylonians that destroyed it the first time

2019-02-18 00:05:20 UTC  

when they took over

2019-02-18 00:05:26 UTC  

then the Jews rebuilt it when they came back from exile

2019-02-18 00:05:45 UTC  

But yeah God is generally viewed as a violent warrior in the Old Testament.

2019-02-18 00:06:04 UTC  

Not entirely accurate though. But it’s understandable.

2019-02-18 00:06:20 UTC  

yeah, stuff just constantly happened that invoked divine anger

2019-02-18 00:06:32 UTC  

Yeah exactly.

2019-02-18 00:06:45 UTC  

but i think the difference in tone also reflects major differences in Christianity and Judaism

2019-02-18 00:06:56 UTC  

to me Judaism is kind of a bitter religion

2019-02-18 00:07:07 UTC  

it does celebrate life and stuff, but there's something bitter about it

2019-02-18 00:07:09 UTC  

God saving different people and sparing people is ignored to make the statement he was a violent douche.

2019-02-18 00:07:51 UTC  

but it might also be because of how they reject the Messiah despite making Himself known, because he didn't do exactly as they thought he would

2019-02-18 00:07:58 UTC  

All the violence you know happened in Exodus, Judges, Kings, and Joshua.

2019-02-18 00:08:11 UTC  

and Genesis

2019-02-18 00:08:23 UTC  

Yeah I knew I had left a couple out.

2019-02-18 00:08:26 UTC  

lol

2019-02-18 00:08:27 UTC  

lol 😂

2019-02-18 00:09:26 UTC  

But you’re talking like 10 books out of 30+ being violent. And even those books have lots of God filled love.

2019-02-18 00:09:46 UTC  

yes

2019-02-18 00:10:26 UTC  

i don't view him as some merciless deity that just acts out His anger, i am just pointing out the larger prevalence of God's anger in the Old Testament lol

2019-02-18 00:10:48 UTC  

because in the NT, it is seemingly reserved until the End Times, then everything comes down

2019-02-18 00:11:20 UTC  

it is cringy whenever i see atheists who are like xd xd haha God sounds like an asshole xd Satan is the real good guy