Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-06 17:49:37 UTC  

anyone who proposes force, should assume that force would be used on them unwillingly at some point

2018-11-06 17:49:41 UTC  

If you're talking about single payer, people still die for "health stuff"

2018-11-06 17:49:57 UTC  

yes, but do less people die?

2018-11-06 17:50:06 UTC  

fewer* /troll

2018-11-06 17:50:12 UTC  

more? unchanged? can we even compare?

2018-11-06 17:50:18 UTC  

Hard to tell. I know only a right wing org has done any sort of study here

2018-11-06 17:50:33 UTC  

But our rates in Canada in that study were pretty close to the same as the US', per capita

2018-11-06 17:50:51 UTC  

but we send more per person don;t we?

2018-11-06 17:51:08 UTC  

Because our hospitals are poorly funded and overpopulated basically

2018-11-06 17:51:19 UTC  

I think you spend more per person but have way more advanced shit overall

2018-11-06 17:53:44 UTC  

And AFAIK, doctors from the US and Canada operating in unlicensed practices just across the Mexican border charge less and make more for about the same quality of care

2018-11-06 17:54:52 UTC  

i really think to get costs down, having the option to be unlicensed so long as the fact you are unlicensed is disclosed, might be an option to help get costs down, as well as other such regulations.

2018-11-06 17:55:23 UTC  

make those regulations something less "pay stupid amounts of time and money because we say so" and instead say you have more protections from things like lawsuits and the like

2018-11-06 17:55:48 UTC  

but anyone caught not disclosing will be treated like those current doing the same thing now

2018-11-06 17:55:55 UTC  

where they claim to be licensed but are nt

2018-11-06 17:56:03 UTC  

The bureaucracy is pretty staggering

2018-11-06 17:56:19 UTC  

They also change what counts for what on an at-least-annual basis

2018-11-06 17:56:32 UTC  

And I _think_ some of that comes from federal regulation, but am not sure

2018-11-06 17:57:50 UTC  

Also America has better payouts and success rates for malpractice

2018-11-06 17:57:58 UTC  

By a pretty alarming margine

2018-11-06 17:58:01 UTC  

pretty sure most doctors have to "charge" and amount so they can give insurance companies a discount too

2018-11-06 17:58:13 UTC  

well of course, you can't sue the government for something and win

2018-11-06 17:58:18 UTC  

Ye

2018-11-06 17:58:37 UTC  

I meant things like, which kinds of cases count as which kinds of coverage

2018-11-06 17:58:41 UTC  

the government defines what malpractice even is

2018-11-06 17:58:46 UTC  

MY mom is in medical charge entry

2018-11-06 17:58:50 UTC  

It's a nightmare

2018-11-06 17:58:56 UTC  

hey guys wouldnt this be more debate?

2018-11-06 17:58:57 UTC  

I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemies

2018-11-06 17:58:58 UTC  

oh, yes, they do have to decide that

2018-11-06 17:59:30 UTC  

actually, one of my co-workers was just talking about having to fight his insurance company over that because of such a thing being incorrectly entered

2018-11-06 17:59:44 UTC  

so insurance tried to say it wasn't covered when it was

2018-11-06 18:26:06 UTC  

“ Five novelist imagine Trump’s next chapter “ on the New York Times

These five stories are laughably delusional. Not a single one rooted in the reality of what’s happening with the Mueller investigation. All assume he worked with Putin despite multiple years of failing to prove this. One even has Trumps own secret service participating in his assassination. Pure Trump derangement syndrome.

http://archive.today/hpZgd

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2018-11-06 18:31:26 UTC  

gottem I read that

2018-11-06 18:31:31 UTC  

pure utter delusion

2018-11-06 21:52:15 UTC  

Found something funny AND enlightening on FiveThirtyEight. I decided to look at the approval ratings for Trump compared to previous presidents.

2018-11-06 21:53:11 UTC  

At this point in time, Trump is equal in approval ratings with Reagan and only 2 percent below OBAMA!

2018-11-06 21:55:23 UTC  

So, if the mainstream media portrays Trump as an enemy of the people, where was all the news of Obama being an enemy of the people?

2018-11-06 21:57:11 UTC  

_ ... So, if the mainstream media portrays Trump as an enemy of the people, where was all the news of Obama being an enemy of the people?_
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