Message from @Kriegfox
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But eventually, there comes a point where it's no longer sustainable
Expected someone else to take care of our families.
You are looking at the FF as the ideal. When they themselves did not.
im looking at the constitution as the ideals
What is best for the people and the nation? That's what their concern was. And what ours should be. The Constitution, etc is not our idol, it is our tool.
Honestly reminds me of the roman empire. breaks up into a number of different nation states.
Also... Isn't our voter turnout like 30% or less?
I believe the constiution and the original ideals should without a doubt still remain the basis of the renewed republic
We have become too successful, no system is perfect and eventually will crumble
Nothing is watertight forever
So many constitutional amendments about equal rights, elections, slavery
But they have found ways around it
No slavery? Okay, then we have apprenticeships
Sure, we vote for the House, the Senate, and the President. But look at the system of voting. Horrible abuse and corruption. Look at Miami and Broward.
You can't really believe those are the only two places. They're the ones who got caught.
that stuff should constantly be audited in my opinion
I mean dude, USSR had elections. China has elections. North Korea has elections.
i think their definition of an election is even worse than ours
Direct democracy may have been good in ancient Greece for example. But look at how big their countries were. 30,000 electors at best.
It was good for the time
In a country that had 30,000 electors, probably not
Now look at the population
convervatives do not have the votes to live in a direct democracy
Things change
In a small one sure
In a big one hell no
And we live in a big country
I'll use China as a comparison since it's the one I'm most experienced with.
Can you or I become president in the US? No. We need connections, money etc
What do you need to become president in China? Appointment by the CPC Standing Committee, who is elected by the National People's Congress, who are elected by lower People's Congresses and so on down to the smallest level at the neighborhood district or village
In other words. Money and connections.
You have to be a party member to do anything in china
thats no an election
they give you options that fit their needs for power, not your needs
A member of one of eight parties
Yes, it's a multiparty democracy
right, as long as you are communist
You can't tell me the communists are maintaining power because the people enjoy it
Or Revolutionary Committee of the Kuomintang
China Democratic League, China Association for Promoting Democracy, Taiwan Democratic Self Government League, and more