Message from @Ehzek
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If they reunited the current idea floating around is a special status like HK and Macau but also with their own army separate from the PLA
Which is basically 99% of what it is now
Hong Kong wants independence but doesn't know what that means.
First it is Chinese soil. So no, fuck you and your independence and your illusory freedom and democracy.
Second, they have very little influence from the mainland.
Everything there is very expensive except sex, high organized crime
Why shouldn’t HK be its own independent nation?
Sounds like California
There's no mainland triads. There are in HK though.
Because people do not have inherent rights to overthrow rulers
They do if the US is involved
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Organized crime fled to HK and still does. Mainland and HK want to extradite them back to mainland to face trial and likely execution. Organized crime bosses don't want that.
So they provoke riots against extradition
Mainland China has no organized crime?
Is that what the riots were about? Lmao
They do have organized crime in the mainland
It's just also the government
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“...people don’t have inherent rights to overthrow rulers”
So the people should just accept communism as their rule forever then? We should just accept mass immigration of 3rd world retards because it’s what our rulers want?
People have ALWAYS had the inherent right to overthrow rulers. It's the ability to do so that isnt inherent
For there to be no right to overthrow rulers people would have to have an inherent right to rule. That just isnt the case in the overwhelming majority of situations.
You can't just decide on a whim that your own government is no longer legitimate
By that standard #NotMyPresident would always be true
The Triads in the mainland were virtually annihilated under Mao by the PLA
Crime always exists and every kind of it does but it is not what you'd call a problem on the mainland
Hong Kong is not communist at all anyway. They are extreme capitalist with probably more economic freedom than the US, maybe anywhere in the world.
But check this shit out @Andrules
Hong Kong is not unique
There is another territory with the exact same status as a "Special Administrative Region"
But they don't have riots.
They too have identical economic and political freedom.
In the SARs you *can* access Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, porn, you *can* criticize the Party, you *can* believe in Islamic terrorism, etc.
Why doesn't the other SAR have these same issues?
Why don't they have riots?
Yeah I know HK is basically anarchy 🤣
What is SAR?
(I see you spelled it out above, but what is it?)
Right vs right