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What states get you on a sex offender registry for public urinating?
Usually we charge disorderly conduct, but we do have a statute for public indecency which also includes flashing and having sex. It's a misdemeanor the first two times.
Can’t you get put on the list for peeing in front of a school playground or something? Or is that just for movies/TV?
Men can get on the list for just peeing in public
If you're charged with flashing a kid then yeah
But no I don't think public pissers need to be on the list at all
Nor teachers having consensual sex with students when they would otherwise be legal
in some states there are mandatory adding ons for crimes like that. in addition, most of what I've read about the subject is highly critical of registries because they make living after serving probation or jail a living hell. people who've murdered others have it easier than people who end up on the registry. in addition to that, there are no studies involving empirical evidence that support the "mythos" that sex offender registries make places safer or reduce rates of recidivism. the opposite tends to be more true from what I've read.
most of the time however if the crime is relatively minor compared to other felonies (crimes with a sentence possibility of over two years) you can end up on the registry for 25 years minimum. during that time it's next to impossible to find stable work, housing, and a means of reintegration with society.
For actual pedophiles, yes the punishment should be severe, but most people who end up on the registry aren't child molesters and rapists. a good portion are teens who screwed someone they didn't know was underage. there was a case in michigan where a college football player was falsely accused of rape by two women who corroborated a story against him. he lost his scholarship, his enrollment in college, and most of his friends, and ended up 30k in debt for legal fees, and was mandated to register. after his conviction was overturned when, he's still on the registry. Was that justice? It's come to the point where the accusation alone turns what is otherwise a good and honest man into what is in the eyes of the public at least a witch or leper. (see Brett Kavanaugh for further evidence). The worst part is that they are put on the registry because the state assumes that the individual will commit a similar crime in the future, effectively denying him presumption of innocence and most of their 5th amendment rights.
I'm only asking for a college paper but reading into it more and more it seems the laws on record are highly immoral, even though it pertains to the treatment of "criminals".
When I worked for the sheriff, I was just a deputy jailer but we dealt with the annual registration since we didn't have law enforcement deputies inside the office. Small town.
So in some places, there might be a lot of "young and dumb" people on the registry. Where I was, nope. All violent rapists, child rapists etc
I'm pretty sure we have lifetime registration here.
Personally... I don't think a 16 yr old being with a 15 yr old, should be on there for statutory rape in most cases.
For those convicted on DNA evidence (the rare case where a rape charge actually results in conviction, it's usually with DNA evidence around here). I could give a fuck less about recidivism rates, constitutional rights and so on.
We have a Romeo & Juliet provision for those. As long as both are ages 14-18. Then it's a misdemeanor, still called statutory rape, but no registration.
ah ok
conviction by DNA, yes, mandatory, but convicted by accusation alone?
with no empirical evidence?
Our conviction rate for murder here is 56%.
I've looked on the registry for my area before. Several guys on there for being 16 and fucking a 15 year old. I can only hope there's more evidence that makes it worth the addition to the list.
That means, out of all murder charges actually laid against a person, only 56% of them result in any conviction whatsoever.
If you were to include murders with no arrest at all, the conviction rate is MUCH lower.
i must come from a different state then. both my parents are lawyers, and the culture up here is pretty fucked in this regard
In fact in our statutes of limitations, we have no limit if there is DNA evidence.
Yeah I have a feeling you're further north than me.
Michigan. I'd bet you're in arizona or new mexico, maybe texas
Further "South"
I'm a cop in the southeast.
florida or georgia then?
not that it matters really. laws are more lax down there, except in kentucky and arkansas
Around there.
We have a registered here in my county, from Michigan, charge is "criminal sexual conduct, third degree" whatever that mean
up there, that's practically nothing serious, but it'll land you on the registry for 25 years.
that's your 16 y/0 screwing a 15 y/o situation
Aside from him, I got a dude for statutory when he was 22, dunno the victim's age. A decent looking girl who is actually five years younger than me, Minnesota with the same criminal sex conduct charge
and where I come from in michigan, I know almost half a dozen people who've done that, and they're all upstanding people
Unlawful activity with minor 16-17 years old...33 when he was convicted though
oh, now that's a pickle