I’m just spitballing here

Judge Dredd 🤷

I think there should be a fucking AIDS HIV registry. Stop that shit from spreading. Tattoo them fuckers

Well I think if someone is convicted by DNA of kidnapping, robbery, carjacking, or any felony sex crime, we should just execute them.

Rather than a felon registry

Baby steps

Nonviolent felonies, without any subsequent criminal offenses, I'm willing to overlook, even give back gun rights after say 5 years of keeping your nose clean

That’s something I agree with too. Too many idiots sell a bag of weed when they’re 20 and become a felon for the rest of their life.

does anyone believe that minor offense that land you on the registry should be allowed for petition after a period of 5 years or so?

and when I say minor i mean things where the maximum penalty is 5 years or less. things like public urination and similar acts

What states get you on a sex offender registry for public urinating?

Usually we charge disorderly conduct, but we do have a statute for public indecency which also includes flashing and having sex. It's a misdemeanor the first two times.

Can’t you get put on the list for peeing in front of a school playground or something? Or is that just for movies/TV?

Men can get on the list for just peeing in public

If you're charged with flashing a kid then yeah

But no I don't think public pissers need to be on the list at all

Nor teachers having consensual sex with students when they would otherwise be legal

in some states there are mandatory adding ons for crimes like that. in addition, most of what I've read about the subject is highly critical of registries because they make living after serving probation or jail a living hell. people who've murdered others have it easier than people who end up on the registry. in addition to that, there are no studies involving empirical evidence that support the "mythos" that sex offender registries make places safer or reduce rates of recidivism. the opposite tends to be more true from what I've read.

most of the time however if the crime is relatively minor compared to other felonies (crimes with a sentence possibility of over two years) you can end up on the registry for 25 years minimum. during that time it's next to impossible to find stable work, housing, and a means of reintegration with society.

For actual pedophiles, yes the punishment should be severe, but most people who end up on the registry aren't child molesters and rapists. a good portion are teens who screwed someone they didn't know was underage. there was a case in michigan where a college football player was falsely accused of rape by two women who corroborated a story against him. he lost his scholarship, his enrollment in college, and most of his friends, and ended up 30k in debt for legal fees, and was mandated to register. after his conviction was overturned when, he's still on the registry. Was that justice? It's come to the point where the accusation alone turns what is otherwise a good and honest man into what is in the eyes of the public at least a witch or leper. (see Brett Kavanaugh for further evidence). The worst part is that they are put on the registry because the state assumes that the individual will commit a similar crime in the future, effectively denying him presumption of innocence and most of their 5th amendment rights.

I'm only asking for a college paper but reading into it more and more it seems the laws on record are highly immoral, even though it pertains to the treatment of "criminals".

When I worked for the sheriff, I was just a deputy jailer but we dealt with the annual registration since we didn't have law enforcement deputies inside the office. Small town.

So in some places, there might be a lot of "young and dumb" people on the registry. Where I was, nope. All violent rapists, child rapists etc

I'm pretty sure we have lifetime registration here.

Personally... I don't think a 16 yr old being with a 15 yr old, should be on there for statutory rape in most cases.

For those convicted on DNA evidence (the rare case where a rape charge actually results in conviction, it's usually with DNA evidence around here). I could give a fuck less about recidivism rates, constitutional rights and so on.

We have a Romeo & Juliet provision for those. As long as both are ages 14-18. Then it's a misdemeanor, still called statutory rape, but no registration.

ah ok

conviction by DNA, yes, mandatory, but convicted by accusation alone?

with no empirical evidence?

Hang out in a courtroom for awhile. There's rarely a conviction even with evidence.

Our conviction rate for murder here is 56%.

I've looked on the registry for my area before. Several guys on there for being 16 and fucking a 15 year old. I can only hope there's more evidence that makes it worth the addition to the list.

That means, out of all murder charges actually laid against a person, only 56% of them result in any conviction whatsoever.

If you were to include murders with no arrest at all, the conviction rate is MUCH lower.

i must come from a different state then. both my parents are lawyers, and the culture up here is pretty fucked in this regard

In fact in our statutes of limitations, we have no limit if there is DNA evidence.

Yeah I have a feeling you're further north than me.

Michigan. I'd bet you're in arizona or new mexico, maybe texas

Further "South"

I'm a cop in the southeast.