Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-22 16:25:31 UTC  

It isn’t the same.

2018-11-22 16:25:32 UTC  

"I don't care what the differences are, I'll just restate my assertion"

2018-11-22 16:25:49 UTC  

I'm staying on point.

2018-11-22 16:26:00 UTC  

No, you're just ignoring incoming information

2018-11-22 16:26:19 UTC  

Are countries in europe different then poppy?

2018-11-22 16:26:19 UTC  

The basis for the United States is not a system of mob rule

2018-11-22 16:26:25 UTC  

I know how and why the votes are counted the way they are in the US.

2018-11-22 16:26:27 UTC  

It is, in fact, designed exactly against that

2018-11-22 16:26:40 UTC  

Then you know that it's not the same thing, and you're just being obtuse

2018-11-22 16:26:49 UTC  

The point behind an interview is to get the best person for the job

2018-11-22 16:27:11 UTC  

The point behind the US system is to elect leadership based on State representatives

2018-11-22 16:27:36 UTC  

Affirmative action undermines the primary goal of hiring

2018-11-22 16:27:45 UTC  

The electoral college secures the primary goal of the US system

2018-11-22 16:28:37 UTC  

In my country one persons vote is counted the same as any ohters. Unlike a black person with the same grades as another when it comes to applying to uni.

2018-11-22 16:29:48 UTC  

That's because you live in one state. The US is many states

2018-11-22 16:30:16 UTC  

@Beemann YOu are not explaining why the two thing are differnet. YOu are just telling me why you like one of them.

2018-11-22 16:30:30 UTC  

No, you're just being obtuse

2018-11-22 16:31:04 UTC  

You live in one state, when you join up with other states (say for the EU) each state sends a representative

2018-11-22 16:31:43 UTC  

The notion that you ought to enter a union where you will be deliberately underrepresented is silly

2018-11-22 16:31:48 UTC  

Affirmative action tkaes into account where/who/what you are when considering what you are worth. Tell me how the ecetoral collage is different.

2018-11-22 16:32:06 UTC  

So do job interviews my dude

2018-11-22 16:32:19 UTC  

Ergo job interviews are all just affirmative action

2018-11-22 16:32:20 UTC  

i'm not saying it's worng!!!!!!!

2018-11-22 16:32:36 UTC  

No, you're overly broadening affirmative action to the point of uselessness

2018-11-22 16:32:43 UTC  

???

2018-11-22 16:33:03 UTC  

```Poppy RiderToday at 16:31
Affirmative action tkaes into account where/who/what you are when considering what you are worth. Tell me how the ecetoral collage is different.```

2018-11-22 16:33:10 UTC  

k

2018-11-22 16:33:14 UTC  

It's like if I said I'm running a marathon right now, because a marathon is going from A to B, and B is far away
But I'm in a car

2018-11-22 16:33:36 UTC  

All interviews take into account who/what/where you are

2018-11-22 16:33:42 UTC  

*all of them*

2018-11-22 16:34:39 UTC  

Who do you need to be? Someone who works well with others, fits with the company
What do you need to be? Someone trained to do the job to a sufficient level, or who can learn quickly enough
Where do you have to be? Close enough to get to work

2018-11-22 16:35:01 UTC  

All job interviews are performed on the basis of discrimination. Discriminating between candidates is the *point*

2018-11-22 16:35:27 UTC  

What about entrence to collage?

2018-11-22 16:35:29 UTC  

Affirmative action is discrimination based on arbitrary characteristics *specifically*, with the goal of achieving quotas

2018-11-22 16:35:39 UTC  

Same shit my dude

2018-11-22 16:35:57 UTC  

@IT's only worng when it's being used in a way I don;t liike.@

2018-11-22 16:36:11 UTC  

Even without affirmative action
Is this person doing well in school?
Do they have money?
Can they get here?

2018-11-22 16:36:27 UTC  

No, lol, you just don't seem to know what Affirmative Action actually is

2018-11-22 16:36:31 UTC  

Or why people are opposed to it

2018-11-22 16:36:39 UTC  

I didn't argue that it is worng or right, where it helps or not.

2018-11-22 16:36:54 UTC  

All admission is discrimination. Affirmative action is not merely discrimination