Message from @hulton

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2018-12-08 07:51:19 UTC  

Or is it global?

2018-12-08 07:51:56 UTC  

November 2017 write up

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/ambassador-assange-not-real-story

Earlier today, The Atlantic's Julia Ioffe ran a story detailing Twitter correspondence between Donald Trump Jr and WikiLeaks (and potentially with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange).

The piece is remarkable. It's not particularly revelatory that Assange had attempted to contact Trump Jr at all, as he claimed as much in July of this year. However, the nature of this contact is revealing and damaging for both WikiLeaks and Trump Jr.

The leaked correspondence is a clear demonstration that WikiLeaks is not a simple media/transparency organisation. Since the correspondence has come to light, Assange has attempted to spin it as a masterful ploy to prompt Trump Jr into promoting their publications and 'beguile' him into providing WikiLeaks with information, rather than active coordination and negotiation with the Trump campaign. If true, the attempt to 'beguile' is plainly unbecoming of a self-professed media outlet. More likely, Asange's explanatory narrative is false.

For Trump Jr, the consequences are yet to be fully fleshed out. Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal has characterised the conversation as Trump Jr '[coordinating] strategy with a known agent of the Russian government' and called for the full exchange to be subpoenaed. Vice President Mike Pence has walked back comments made as a candidate in October of last year that the campaign was 'in cahoots' with WikiLeaks.

2018-12-08 07:52:22 UTC  

global I think, on other nservers the is a + button on the left of the input box for up loading pictures./

2018-12-08 07:53:24 UTC  

I has no newsguard score, Timmy will be crossed.

2018-12-08 07:57:28 UTC  

Even 4 - 5 years ago, details emerging around Assange begin to erode the reputation of freedom fighters exposing corrupt governements, the Stratfor hack, and Iceland

2018-12-08 07:57:48 UTC  

How exactly are they able to obtain private chat logs on twitter between two people?

2018-12-08 07:57:56 UTC  

Twitter could just give them up

2018-12-08 07:57:57 UTC  

but

2018-12-08 07:57:58 UTC  

in this case

2018-12-08 07:58:02 UTC  

DJT Jr did

2018-12-08 07:58:40 UTC  

but again, investigatos have tools, like legislative tools, they can compell twitter to turn them over by court order

2018-12-08 07:58:46 UTC  

Didn't JR also have twitter DMs with Julian were they shared publicly available information, CNN or some miss read the date and though it was a smoking gun?

2018-12-08 07:58:47 UTC  

and Twitter could fight that

2018-12-08 07:59:18 UTC  

This just all seems like conjecture

2018-12-08 07:59:43 UTC  

ALL of it?

2018-12-08 07:59:50 UTC  

again, ALL of it>

2018-12-08 08:00:14 UTC  

I’m not saying 1on1 messages didn’t happen

2018-12-08 08:00:39 UTC  

But the conjecture lies in what does that mean

2018-12-08 08:00:45 UTC  

For example

2018-12-08 08:00:53 UTC  

What does ANY of it mean

2018-12-08 08:01:45 UTC  

I have to take it with a grain of salt because they are releasing articles they WANT me to read and see

2018-12-08 08:01:49 UTC  

Even Slate called the MSN out for the mistake, "We Still Don’t Know Why Three Different Outlets “Confirmed” the Same Bogus Russia Story Last Week"

2018-12-08 08:02:08 UTC  

So it’s all bs?

2018-12-08 08:02:44 UTC  

I don;t think Trump being imcompedent and umprepared is.

2018-12-08 08:03:32 UTC  

hulton who is they?

2018-12-08 08:03:45 UTC  

Corporate media

2018-12-08 08:03:47 UTC  

dude

2018-12-08 08:03:52 UTC  

thats tens of thousands of people

2018-12-08 08:03:54 UTC  

at least

2018-12-08 08:04:06 UTC  

Meaning what?

2018-12-08 08:04:07 UTC  

They're all just empty shells looking to fool you?

2018-12-08 08:04:28 UTC  

Empty shells, many probably are

2018-12-08 08:04:40 UTC  

Looking to fool me? I’m not fooled

2018-12-08 08:05:03 UTC  

Like I said I am just taking it with a grain of salt not gospel

2018-12-08 08:05:11 UTC  

but you could be, like anyone

2018-12-08 08:05:14 UTC  

including me

2018-12-08 08:05:36 UTC  

Look at an example above. An article correcting previous articles

2018-12-08 08:05:48 UTC  

and that is why I think that if Im gonna buy into something, the sell has to be convincing, and what's gonna convince me, are the details