the state is made of people to you know...

too*

it is but its a seperate entity

the state is a tool

used by the people

No the state is the system built around the nation

think of it like this

there is America

The kurds are a nation, but they have no state

and there is the Fed

they are separate entities

you can disagree with the Fed

but you can support your country

obama tried from a position of a state to create and reshape a nation

immigration and etc

utterly immoral

the Constitution is the heart of the nation

and is uppose to be upheld by the State

but it seldom is

@Amadeus have you been debating all night? How are you not dead?

not really debating

lol

commentating is more accurate

we have breaks every now and then

the country has a pretty long past of disregarding the Constitution to be honest lol

people tend to make the argument that nobody is trying to go against the Constitution or that tyranny cannot happen here

but it has on numerous occasions

Government's treatment of the First Amendment during WWI, for instance

they totally disregarded the freedom of speech, and silenced any anti-war sentiments

Abraham Lincoln was also quite tyrannical

he tried to suspend habeas corpus if i am remembering right

and tried to arrest.... Maryland? lawmakers

honestly what did u expect

u forgo your free speech and priviledges in times of crisis

you only forgo them if the State forces it as such

but i personally do not agree with that

all the stupid safety precautions the Government has instilled since 9/11 is retarded

they cannot guarantee safety