Sanctuary laws afford more rights to non citizens than citizens get

oh i agree. L.A. county sheriff chief said same thing.

Sometimes i feel like the only solution is a return to old west style law.
Someone wrongs you, you take the law into your own hands.

The Sanctuary Laws will have to be judged by SCOTUS

And I hope that the ones enforcing the Sanctuary laws will be held responsible. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that....

They can abolish sanctuary laws but gl holding local office accountable. You can force resignation for them signing in unconstitutional laws but you cant get them jailed I dont think. Not unless you prove it was malicious

Cortez is also either the most idiotic public figure I know of (beating out Macron and Trump, which is somewhat impressive) or an actually malicious genius in the same vein as trump, and using this bad press to keep her in the limelight

honestly I was born in Cali, and watching it slide downhill... at this point, I'm waiting for an intervention

@Vannevariable Here's your Intervention

I hope it doesn't come to that. After all, I have a lot of family and friends down there.

By intervention I'm expecting vali to collapse it's own economy and need to be bailed out by the government, and that the government makes it sting.

Though even that has issues...

```honestly I was born in Cali, and watching it slide downhill... at this point, I'm waiting for an intervention```
You guys voted Crazy Maxine and Dement Nancy into office

So there really is little hope...

>we

>orange county voter turnout was 140% of the precinct @Stefan Payne

>we

Yeah we voted for that for sure

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Bro, I'm close to Orange County. Come touch butts with me.

I'm in WA, not cali

Moved away over 20 years ago

In some states the sanctuary laws were voted in by statewide referendum. It was on the Oregon ballot last month and won by a large margin.

Agree or disagree with the outcome, we had a war to settle wether or not a state could ignore federal law.
Trump needs to defund sanctuary States.

```"Without presuming to decide the purely legal question, on which it seems evident to me from Madison's and Hamilton's papers that the Fathers of the Constitution were not agreed, I saw in State Rights the only availing check upon the absolutism of the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction but as the redemption of Democracy. The institutions of your Republic have not exercised on the old world the salutary and liberating influence which ought to have belonged to them, by reason of those defects and abuses of principle which the Confederate Constitution was expressly and wisely calculated to remedy. I believed that the example of that great Reform would have blessed all the races of mankind by establishing true freedom purged of the native dangers and disorders of Republics. Therefore I deemed that you were fighting the battles of our liberty, our progress, and our civilization; and I mourn for the stake which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo."
Lord Acton, Letter (4 November 1866) to Robert E. Lee```

```"We must promote the idea of secession. Or more specifically, we must promote the idea of a world composed of tens of thousands of distinct districts, regions, and cantons, and hundred of thousands of independent free cities such as the present day oddities of Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Hong Kong, and Singapore. Greatly increased opportunities for economically motivated migration would thus result, and the world would be one of small [classically] liberal governments economically integrated through free trade and an international commodity money such as gold."
-Hoppe.```

that would be better then what we moght get now

Yeah, as it is easier to get rid of your mayor than the President of said country.

at least in THeory

but it would be thriving economy

not starving poverty

Yeah, the key to prosperity is to deliberately limit group cohesion and cooperation. Top idea, Hoppe.

Hoppe is describing a model of heightened group cohesion and cooperation.

if you have a lot of prospering individuals and capable individuals then that is great for economy right ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46708656

States and municipalities are not preventing the federal government from performing their legal duties in their jurisdictions. With a handful of exceptions, local officials which may be prosecuted individually, no one is even interfering with the feds doing their legal duty. All "sanctuary" really means in practice is local jurisdictions, state or city, declining to assist the feds in performing tasks the locals find abhorrent.

I can compare it directly to marijuana

Marijuana is still quite illegal federally. The FDA stated last week that CBD remains illegal even if produced with recently legalized hemp

States that have "legalized" mary jane have not really done any such thing. They have simply declined to assist the federal government in applying their laws. Feds can still perform the duty themselves.

Seriously, the "sanctuary city" debate and the debate over "legalizing" marijuana locally are the exact same debate. Are states required to do the feds work for them or can they opt out while still not preventing the feds from doing the enforcement themselves.

that's an interesting question...