Message from @RyeNorth
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And based off of Proud Boy testimony, they probably instigated the fight before the street footage.
Antifa were literally the ones in a self-defense scenario in that case.
Testimony is crap.
Bold of you to just throw out the cornerstone of millenia of judicial precedent.
Testimony is actually only good with certain evidence, it glues things together but it is not a cornerstone. It is more of a mortar for the bricks.
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Crimsom puts that well.
Testimony is responsible for it's fair share of atrocity.
See: Salem Witch Trials, McCarthyism, The Kavanaugh Hearing
turns out that mcarthy was right though
there were communists at the highest levels of government, one of them was on the comitee he appointed
Oof, thats a spicy take. I like it.
That doesn't change much as Antifa were the ones to throw the first punch
One could argue that they felt threatened by a much larger person moving towards them rapidly
The argument for self-defense is tilted in Antifa's favor in this case.
If its a brawl, its not self defense. Along with that, if there is a way out of the situation, you must take it in NY.
Personally, i'd arrest them all and slap them with fines or even a bit of jail time if it came down to it.
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Frankly, that's what's just.
Yeha, like Eric Clanton....
but this time, the Proud Boys might go to jail for a couple of years.
Eric Clanton committed assault with a deadly weapon with a lot of added things due to it being a bike lock. A long with that, one could argue from the way he struck, it was situated to maim or kill. Thats a lot different friend.
To be fair, in my incident, I defended myself with a bike lock. I worked as a bike courier, and I practiced with one just in case. They're capable of some serious damage.
Exactly, that would be an incident where self-defense would come into play if you didnt have an immediate way out. But moving through a crowd to strike someone is just assault. Often times, courts will forgive the use of a weapon in certain circumstances and may just decrease something to assault if it cant be argued to be in self defense.
Unless you live in a certain state, then you had no need to run and could just kill the man really.
I know about that, I disagree with it.
That's a case of a crooked jurisdiction.
There's a reason I bailed on Washington DC. Even though I miss it, I don't feel safe there, on a corruption level.
The police never really bothered to try to look for the 'youths' that attacked me.
And if they did, it would've been 'Simple Assault', so they don't have to report the statistics.
People were I live fear the ATF because they will try you in a court which gets all of its jury from the inner city.
even though it was a case of about 14 kids surrounding me, trying to play the knockout game.
Yeah, thats terrible dude.
God i'm happy I dont live in the city.
Ruined the pizza I was delivering at the time, too.
On Christmas Eve of all nights.
sexy