Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-03 05:40:46 UTC  

That congress and abe fixed

2018-09-03 05:40:56 UTC  

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

2018-09-03 05:40:59 UTC  

No, that’s a lie.

2018-09-03 05:41:11 UTC  

That’s sophistry if I ever saw it.

2018-09-03 05:41:52 UTC  

Where does it say "the President alone can take away my WoHC on a statewide level"

2018-09-03 05:41:54 UTC  

Lincoln made a massive oof.

2018-09-03 05:43:08 UTC  

It doesnt

2018-09-03 05:43:23 UTC  

Case closed.

2018-09-03 05:43:24 UTC  

It was argued by Lincoln that it was for emergencies

2018-09-03 05:43:43 UTC  

That doesn't mean he gets that sudden power

2018-09-03 05:43:46 UTC  

For Congress, yes, not the President.

2018-09-03 05:43:46 UTC  

And since it was an emergency and congress couldn't do it he did it

2018-09-03 05:44:14 UTC  

It’s implied, within the constitution, to be an Legislative Power, not an executive one.

2018-09-03 05:44:14 UTC  

And congress clapped

2018-09-03 05:44:27 UTC  

Congress could do it, that's why his action was unconstitutional in the first place

2018-09-03 05:44:34 UTC  

It was decided that when congress cant president can

2018-09-03 05:44:44 UTC  

Only Congress could do it.

2018-09-03 05:45:10 UTC  

Apparently not

2018-09-03 05:45:21 UTC  

And how does the President magically have this power when it is clearly under the list of Congressional powers?

2018-09-03 05:45:22 UTC  

Otherwise we wouldnt have this conversation

2018-09-03 05:45:50 UTC  

Because the constitution is a living breathing document that can be changed?

2018-09-03 05:46:03 UTC  

No, it isn’t.

2018-09-03 05:46:13 UTC  

Explain amendments

2018-09-03 05:46:18 UTC  

Ill wait

2018-09-03 05:46:20 UTC  

It isn’t something you can change the meaning of immediately on a whim.

2018-09-03 05:46:34 UTC  

He didnt

2018-09-03 05:46:50 UTC  

Amendments are meant to be hard to change and ratify because the Constitution is meant to be a slow-moving document.

2018-09-03 05:47:21 UTC  

And when there is war it can change fast

2018-09-03 05:47:37 UTC  

When vulnerabilities are found to exist

2018-09-03 05:47:58 UTC  

Which is what happened

2018-09-03 05:48:01 UTC  

But it cannot change so suddenly that it ignores it entirely.

2018-09-03 05:48:06 UTC  

It did

2018-09-03 05:48:14 UTC  

Lincoln’s argument makes no sense.

2018-09-03 05:48:22 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-09-03 05:48:31 UTC  

Unless you are a Democrat

2018-09-03 05:48:42 UTC  

Who needs it not to make sense

2018-09-03 05:48:44 UTC  

And it is still Unconstitutional about what he did.

2018-09-03 05:48:48 UTC  

To throw dirt on him

2018-09-03 05:49:05 UTC  

Democrats pander the “living document” shit, Ehzek.

2018-09-03 05:49:17 UTC  

So they support him

2018-09-03 05:49:20 UTC  

Good