Message from @FaustingPanzer

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2018-09-03 06:18:28 UTC  

Better Government than anarchy

2018-09-03 06:18:42 UTC  

Unless youre a dem or libertarian

2018-09-03 06:18:49 UTC  

If rebellion means seeking Congressional approval before putting the rights of the individual at risk, so be it

2018-09-03 06:19:11 UTC  

They rebelled before that

2018-09-03 06:21:37 UTC  

I know, but that's not the point

2018-09-03 06:22:10 UTC  

But it is?

2018-09-03 06:22:25 UTC  

Point is Abe's decision was unconstitutional

2018-09-03 06:22:33 UTC  

Not that the South got angry

2018-09-03 06:22:42 UTC  

South got angy before

2018-09-03 06:22:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628704296173569/486058470026772480/image0.png

2018-09-03 06:23:01 UTC  

And Abes decision would have happened anyways

2018-09-03 06:23:31 UTC  

You sure argue with me a lot for someone you have blocked boots

2018-09-03 06:23:52 UTC  

History isn't predetermined

2018-09-03 06:24:13 UTC  

It was in that specific case

2018-09-03 06:25:00 UTC  

You have to be patient with him. He has awootism.

2018-09-03 06:25:17 UTC  

You sure use weeb speak a lot too

2018-09-03 06:25:39 UTC  

*notices density* OWO

2018-09-03 06:26:20 UTC  

Really if you prove congress wanted something else Id cave

2018-09-03 06:26:34 UTC  

But you are argueing morals against law

2018-09-03 06:26:46 UTC  

President did it before Congress approval

2018-09-03 06:26:55 UTC  

Stop flipflopping on the timeline

2018-09-03 06:27:07 UTC  

Congress approved

2018-09-03 06:27:21 UTC  

So, we, the ones pointing out Lincoln had no authority to suspend the writ of Habeus corpus, are the ones arguing based on morals against law?

2018-09-03 06:27:26 UTC  

After Abe dug their grave

2018-09-03 06:27:49 UTC  

They could have impeached him if they wanted

2018-09-03 06:28:05 UTC  

Or not supported him

2018-09-03 06:28:34 UTC  

Or reprimanded him

2018-09-03 06:28:35 UTC  

But they’re corrupt politicians who only vilified the reason for the south’s secession. They only had their interests in mind.

2018-09-03 06:28:47 UTC  

Or not given him the right to do so again

2018-09-03 06:28:58 UTC  

There were other options

2018-09-03 06:29:21 UTC  

South were corrupt too

2018-09-03 06:29:27 UTC  

When the majority of sitting members are in the same party as him? Yeah they'll be adamant on a witchhunt lmao

2018-09-03 06:29:43 UTC  

Then why even complain?

2018-09-03 06:29:55 UTC  

Because it's fucking unconstitutional

2018-09-03 06:29:57 UTC  

Like I said this is a moral argument for you

2018-09-03 06:30:07 UTC  

It was decided to be constitutional

2018-09-03 06:30:40 UTC  

Legally

2018-09-03 06:30:41 UTC  

Lincoln had no right to declare war on states or block their trade routes.

2018-09-03 06:31:08 UTC  

Somebody explain to me how the violation of speech and personal freedom is constitutional

2018-09-03 06:31:15 UTC  

He didnt at the time

2018-09-03 06:31:55 UTC  

I don’t want to pile on and make this three on one but Lincoln’s administration was objectively the most harmful and despotic in American history