Nobody is saying pedophilia. We are referring to late teens

However, 15-16 and mature is consensual.

define mature?

There is a reason why we can reproduce starting at puberty. The idea of not being mentally developed enough to have sex until age 18 has not existed until the last hundred years. Reeks of post-modernism tbh

Who determines what is mature

Mentally or physically mature?

When people died in their 30s it made sense to have children at 15. Now we live to be 75.

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Maturity is a hard concept to define because it varies from culture to culture.

I've seen people in their 50s who aren't mature

Besides, if we live to be 200, would the age of consent rise to 50?

That's not how this works

At any rate it’s silly and grammatically incorrect to say a teenager having consensual sex is pedophilia

You think people should not have sex until marriage, I agree, but generally you must be 18 to marry.

Zero you're saying that because we had a shorter lifespan we had kids younger

Yes

Yet the age of sexual consent is 16

So if we had a longer lifespan we should have kids older?

What are you saying?

No, at 25 you're fully developed

I see NO correlation between lifespan and the age of consent.

You're pulling at straws.

Because lifespan and age of consent only correlated in the past

it never did.

you're trying to take something that happened in the past and apply it to the future

and it doesn't now.

Lifespan argument is completely bullshit because once people survived to age five, their life expectancy was pretty much the same as it is now, for the past 1000 years

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People only lived in their 30s due to disease outbreaks.

and lack of immunity from massive amounts of immigration.

Native Americans lived to be in their early hundreds.

Immigration shortens lifespan because of disease.

Or it *did*

now we have vaccines.

http://www.johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/age-specific-mortality-lifespan-bad-science-2009.html

You're wrong. The maximum lifespan hasn't changed, but lifespan has.

How biology works doesn’t change according to the current year. People are still able to reproduce after puberty same as they always have. The only thing that’s changed is this post-modernist moral outrage.

Gonna go play Total War: Rome 2, will look at this arguement later.

I've said all I need to say.

We have endless examples of historical figures living into their 70s and 80s and they were not considered abnormal