Not the citizens, obviously. We don't kick people out of the country simply for disagreeing with a political action.

Not yet anyway

The Citizens are all for the wall around here

@Khanclansith Like these guys?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuteman_Project

The responce was that W sent the National Guard and built wall sections @Fitzydog The problem is gettting worse in this neck of the woods and Megacity CTRL-Left are demanding the Government make it worse... What do you think will happen with Minuteman 2.0?

There's going to be a trigger, and rednecks/veterans are going to pour down to the border to protect it themselves, maybe.

Otherwise, nothing at all, because boomers like getting raped as long as it's slow. They'll just sit in their homes sighing and complaining to themselves while the Southwest turns into an extension of Mexico

Many on the CRTL-Left want Texas, NM, AZ, CA, NV to all return to Mexico already

As well as La Raza and Latin supremacists

Don't forget, these people have youth organizations IN OUR SCHOOLS

Hispanics are more racist against First Nation peoples than the North American Whites are this point.

Doesn't surprise me

Will identity politics win the culture war?

I doubt it. Too many variables in identity. The systems that tend to succeed are simple and based more in objective reality.

Long term, sure

But in our immediate future?

Oh, possibly then, for awhile anyway. Tribalism is deeply rooted in human behaviour.

How long before I start seeing teenagers wear "kill Whitey" tshirts to school?

6 months - 2 years, if it's not a thing already.

oof

It feels like the Media is almost *trying* to start a race war

More accurately, they're trying to stir up interesting sensational stories. Racial tension stories generate lots of money.

They 'know' that no matter what happens to the nation or society, there will always be a demand for media and news, therefore you might as well generate something interesting

the culture war will never be over

It might stabilize though. Hell, I'd say it's currently pretty stable. The violence is minimal and isolated.

@SinSanguine Really? Cause antifa is trying to go hot in Oregon right now

A school shooting, and then planting bombs at police stations

@Arch-Fiend By 'culture war' most people mean the current civil infighting in the west since the 1960s

the 1960's was a turning point of identity politics

These incidents may be violent, but the system is still stable. People are going to work and school still. No mass civil unrest, just Antifa merely trying to go hot. I'll wait and see how it progresses, but it's not destabilizing anything besides local mood.

the 1960's was built up from 150 years of a completely different culture war that lead to a small period of time where the big idea was "were not going to do this identity politics shit anymore" unfortunately this was also during a time where the generational gap was the strongest in history, those who inherited the world after the 1960s were raised on the back of that strong revolutionary spirit that got the world to change but also live in a world that takes longer than a single man's life for those changes to be expressed.

@SinSanguine The destabilization doesn't frighten me.

The apathetic nature of Americans does however.

It should. It's weird. It's a detachment from part of what makes us human. It's a side effect of our technology though. We're overexposed to information and desensitized, but it might not can be helped without bringing in other dystopian elements such as censorship or propaganda, which are already being used to combat the apathy.

intersectional identity politics is going to open the door for nepotism by making race, gender, sexuality, identity a conversation to have, if it can be had on one side it will be had on the other. nepotism is the natural enemy of intersectional identity politics and is what they think the modern world is actually built on (which is partly true, but they dont realize that we have recently decided to go against that). however their attack on everyone who beleives we are beyond this and just want to move on is going to build resentment in the future generations who have to be born into it.

the culture war is racist, it is about taking from one group and giving to another, and is going to create people who have their parents harmed by and are opressed by it while growing up resentful for it. the worse it gets the more that group of people are going to think they can only work with eachother in this world in order to survive because anyone else is a part of the group pushing them down

basicly, everything that ever brought different people with different ideas and different identitys that was worked on during the last 200 years is going to be destroyed by people who claim they are fighting for the same thing that lead to civil rights

Everything? Seems a little pessimistic.

if they are able to contenue? yes

we are in a world that is becoming "stick to your own kind" on both sides for completely different reasons, what do you gain by not picking a side? the center isint winning, its only maintaining its principles as it becomes irrelivent. i could be wrong, the extreme tolerence of the center may have a breaking point at some point, however if those who believe we should all just get along remain tolerent as one side beats the fear into its children while the other side takes them in with claims that they can be trusted just because they look the same then your creating a future where things are not going to become any more stable

theres only one side really fighting in the culture war, they will create another side given enough time, and if the sleeping giant never wakes up before it shrinks with hunger, it will awaken to see that it is the minority again

So then violence happens. Maybe a few decades or even centuries of chaos. Maybe totalitarian rule steps up to stifle the chaos. Maybe 1984's story becomes strikingly close to reality. Maybe even nuclear war leads to mass death. In the end, whatever will happen, will happen. I prefer to stick to caring about what's in my immediate sphere of influence and control. Worrying about the future outside of me seems like a waste of my emotional energy.

im not talking about that long term, im talking about a matter of generations, this will occure in your lifetime, it may get at its worse around the end of your lifetime. totalitarian? im not sure about that, the center may rise up and just try and crush both sides with as much violence as posible, i think the far right will just slink back into hiding as it always does during that. if the center waits to long before it trys that and it doesent actually have any ideological power behind it anymore, the majority of people are already on one or the other side, it wont be able to be effective, what will happen is a war between identitarians, intersectionalists vs those they opress, and the success of intersectionalists during that war depends souly on how much political power it has relitive to the other side at the time.

the newer generations are not going to be infavor of intersectionality in the west so long as it contenues to work against them