Message from @💲Mckeone💲
Discord ID: 545971217157324810
I think we're done here.
no offense but buying a mac, makes any opinion you might have on pc's invalid 😄
It was on sale.
it's like mobile gamers talking about pc gaming ;D
sure sure 😄
It was at $9999
I camped in front of the Mac Store for a week.
...
sigh, k feel free to touch your soy penises with other mac fanbois, i need to take a shower
bwahahahahaha
<:TimThink:482277772497125378>
@Timcast https://www.citylab.com/life/2017/03/business-tax-incentives-waste/518754/ the belief that tax incentives for jobs is a good economic proposition is highly contentious and I strongly urge you to read more on that subject before repeating it in your videos
@💲Mckeone💲 i might point out, The first article seems to combine tax breaks and forms of payouts into one, when they really should be separate as they are 2 vastly different methods of incentives, and i suspect one is much more costly and ineffective than the other. Also the last 2 articles admit that they bring jobs into a state. They point out that it is costly to other states and the nation as a whole, making them "ineffective", but the duty of a governor or mayor is not to generate new jobs for the nation as a whole, but for the local community. To that end, jobs moved into the state from another state are still "new jobs" when looking at from the prospective of the state. It would be like saying the Fed giving tax breaks to foreign companies to set up shop here is detrimental to the global government because it takes the jobs from another country, then generates less tax revenue because of the tax breaks. Would a US citizen care if the countries of the world make less money because we managed to get a business to move jobs from china to here? They are being disingenuous because they see one state gaining jobs but making less tax per job and say its costly because another state has lost money. That is not ineffective or costly to the state who now has a new revenue stream. A states duty is to its citizens, not that of the US. That is the job of the fed.
Russian trolls caused measles outbreak
😂
Legit ROFL
Russia Maddow: On the Russia Maddow show, how Russian trolls are spreading measles all over America!
@Grenade123 I think you missed my point. You seem to be arguing from a certain theoretical point and assuming the claimed efficiency of a certain program. I don't dispute that some tax incentives may work or not. What I do dispute is taking the assumption that they do work at face value. See https://www.pewtrusts.org/-/media/assets/2017/05/edti_how_states_are_improving_tax_incentives_for_jobs_and_growth.pdf
Many states, including New York, are atrocious at measuring efficiency and as pew notes in that study, poorly structured tax incentives can have serious detrimental impacts
Christ, look at what Foxconn did in Wisconsin
i mean, what else is new. Legislators throw shit left and right. You'll have someone compete make a good deal, then have his cohort turn around and produce a deal like foxconn. But this also means that each case needs to be observed on a case by case basis. That said, as Tim pointed out and others point out, lowering taxes across the board is probably more effective.
most of what i read in that pew article, and referenced the previous articles, is that its more a problem with implementation than the idea itself.
That last statement of yours belies the problem
You could say the same thing about communism
Theory is irrelevant if it can't be implemented correctly
except communism isn't even good on paper
nor socialism
That's just an opinion though
I value ideas based on their ability to get claimed results
So far, the evidence for tax incentives is that there is a lot of devil in the details
And its far from reasonable to simply believe untested assertions about what they will do
Particularly when many states go out of their way to avoid studying them in the first place
the state goes out of its way to avoid studying a lot of stuff
Which, in my view, is indicative the state shouldn't be doing it then
immigration status, gun crime, drug use
It's not reality based decision making
You have a bunch of unqualified people make calls in place of experts and lie for a living.