Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-18 08:56:47 UTC  

no

2018-08-18 08:57:18 UTC  

Now this is based on the assumption the user is 100% informed of them

2018-08-18 08:57:26 UTC  

which is a fallacy

2018-08-18 08:57:49 UTC  

When the user wil only have the info they are aware of at that point

2018-08-18 08:57:52 UTC  

if you raise one of your hands to scratch your nose, imo it's a choice even if you're not aware of it

2018-08-18 08:58:11 UTC  

thats like saying when you were born it was your choice

2018-08-18 08:58:25 UTC  

I dont see the tribalism in that alone. Choosing something does not make you tribal.

2018-08-18 08:58:37 UTC  

What makes it tribal is your reason for making a choice

2018-08-18 08:58:47 UTC  

Did you choose x because all your mates did the same

2018-08-18 08:58:53 UTC  

i dont get the similarity. someone else is birthing you.

2018-08-18 08:59:00 UTC  

Or did you come to your own conclusion that x is better

2018-08-18 08:59:14 UTC  

forcing ppl to make a choice or be part of the proccess of a choice making with out their knowledge is tribalistic

2018-08-18 08:59:21 UTC  

you are talkign now out of power

2018-08-18 08:59:52 UTC  

Choosing to not choose is a choice. To choose not to, one has to be aware of the choice.

2018-08-18 09:00:11 UTC  

with those unetical line of thoghts you are giving people guilt or resposability of actions and choices they had ntohing to do with

2018-08-18 09:00:34 UTC  

tribalistic

2018-08-18 09:00:35 UTC  

Now thays a rather pointed accusation you are making no?

2018-08-18 09:00:41 UTC  

no

2018-08-18 09:00:48 UTC  

thats ethics

2018-08-18 09:01:02 UTC  

We are not talking about laws or crime here.

2018-08-18 09:01:08 UTC  

ethics is not that

2018-08-18 09:01:42 UTC  

I am saying that holding a neutral position on something is a side on its own.

2018-08-18 09:01:53 UTC  

the base of all judgment on a person it starts on the line of choices the person has done in his, her life

2018-08-18 09:02:04 UTC  

Or in other words you choose to withhold judgement until something changes you mind

2018-08-18 09:02:13 UTC  

yes

2018-08-18 09:02:31 UTC  

There is no harm in choosing

2018-08-18 09:02:38 UTC  

Or choosing not to choose

2018-08-18 09:03:07 UTC  

of course theres no harm but is unethical

2018-08-18 09:03:42 UTC  

and if applied in real life with out proper explanation will lead to unethical behaivour

2018-08-18 09:03:55 UTC  

for example senators and such

2018-08-18 09:04:03 UTC  

on laws, theyh ave an abstain vote

2018-08-18 09:04:16 UTC  

but by abstaining they are pandering to the mayority

2018-08-18 09:04:27 UTC  

thers a whole dilema there

2018-08-18 09:04:44 UTC  

Wouldnt the whole choice thing bypass that?

2018-08-18 09:04:50 UTC  

no

2018-08-18 09:05:54 UTC  

So lets get this straight

2018-08-18 09:06:04 UTC  

they abstain knowingly

2018-08-18 09:06:29 UTC  

this si an example of people chosing to be neutral

2018-08-18 09:06:30 UTC  

You dont think not making a choice does not count as making a choice

2018-08-18 09:07:02 UTC  

hyh?

2018-08-18 09:07:06 UTC  

huh?