You speak for civilians when you carpet bombed them for day and night non stop

All infrastructure of Japanese along with their military complexes were demolished

their navy was lying in the depths of the sea

their "modern" type of airplanes were models used for kamikaze attacks

And it was wrong

And they still haden't surrendered

what makes you believe a land assault would not result in a bloody fight?

Because the homeland was secure

Until we, and the Russians were knocking on the door

Dude the people whose idea it was to nuke them agree with me

Also even if you landed doesn't mean Russians wouldn't

You're going to ascribe an entirely different motive to the people who came up with the idea in the first place?

If Russia wanted a land war against us they could have gotten it at any time

The same dudes you say, used Americans as cannon fodders to test the nukes

I'm aware

how many americans died of radiation

All wrong

because of that

You're only further proving my point

I'm agreeing you on the part that nukes is cruel from the start. I'm only saying that one nuke was necessary for an unconditional defeat before things erupted worse with the commies

You say if commies wanted a land fight you would give it, that would result in more nukes in all USSR as they didn't had this weapon yet

don't narrow down your view point

It wasn't necessary

I meant if they wanted a land war they would have attacked somewhere else

They were going to pay them back

only they stopped

because US made Japan their vassals

Had all over US army as Japan was forbidden to have their own back then

Note that Russian and US troops never faced each other in large scale combat

Yes

but that wouldn't stop them from invading parts that haven't been invaded by US in japan

So we can agree that nukes are bad, but when experimenting with new technology powerful men make grave mistakes

As far as moral high ground vs communists. We have no evidence and barely a concrete accusation of Korean or Chinese communists committing anything remotely close to a war crime

We do have a lot of evidence

Soldiers I mean

the non stop raping from the road to berlin

massive death counts

I said Korean and Chinese

Not Russian

Remove the raping

the other stands