Message from @Atkins

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2018-11-18 22:56:56 UTC  

People know 9/11 was an inside job

2018-11-18 22:56:59 UTC  

how is this surprising?

2018-11-18 22:57:01 UTC  

we are actually at a point where elections can get tampered with and can't be proven or disproven

2018-11-18 22:57:04 UTC  

i mean think, think it was an inside job

2018-11-18 22:57:09 UTC  

people also think falcon 9 rockets are UFOs

2018-11-18 22:57:23 UTC  

specifically those in California for some reason

2018-11-18 22:57:50 UTC  

I mean, to be a pedantic asshole, if they can't identify them, they are UFOs

2018-11-18 22:58:55 UTC  

while i'm not so far gone as to believe that a shooting with video and victim testimony has been fabricated, i definitely believe that people will falsify records and statistics for political gain.

2018-11-18 22:59:29 UTC  

and we have proof that tech giants have experimented with manipulating people's access to facts to change their opinions.

2018-11-18 23:00:04 UTC  

and we also have proof that media outlets collude with both each other and the democratic party to manipulate public perception.

2018-11-18 23:00:18 UTC  

again journolist and cabalist as well as the podesta hack.

2018-11-18 23:00:32 UTC  

information is power

2018-11-18 23:00:52 UTC  

'credibly accused'

2018-11-18 23:01:17 UTC  

media outlets collude with each other to push a particular narrative, to the point of coordinating the phrases they use.

2018-11-18 23:02:27 UTC  

if you're the kind of person who isn't particularly stable or logical to begin with, once presented with proof of this sort of collusion and manipulation it's not hard to take a wild leap to the idea of staging entire events.

2018-11-18 23:02:47 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-18 23:02:51 UTC  

again, i'm not the kind of guy that believes that crap, but it's not hard to conceptualize of people who do

2018-11-18 23:02:52 UTC  

I know

2018-11-18 23:03:54 UTC  

But why there has the be a reflexive denial that something bad happens rather than simply reiterating that when shit happens it doesn't justify dumping more shit on shit. And then providing support and compassion to those shat on.

2018-11-18 23:04:06 UTC  

like we have some photographic evidence of factions that were fighting in the syrian civil war of fabricating photos of dead kids (chicken blood and a cooperative kid). the goal being to stoke western outrage and intervention.

2018-11-18 23:04:33 UTC  

But to deny the original existence of children is a very horrid form of evil.

2018-11-18 23:05:30 UTC  

yeah, it is. but if you believe in one conspiracy it gets easier to build other conspiracies into it. everything trying to convince you the conspiracy theory is wrong is ***THEM*** trying to trick you. whoever you think ***THEY*** are.

2018-11-18 23:06:02 UTC  

its it really that hard to conceptualize people believing highly politized events are false flags

2018-11-18 23:06:22 UTC  

"That's a crazy conspiracy theory. You shouldn't believe in that kind of nonsense"
"GASP! You're in on it aren't you>?!?"

2018-11-18 23:06:46 UTC  

before you know it, the jews are behind everything

2018-11-18 23:06:57 UTC  

False flags can happen. I won't deny that it is important to investigate the actual facts behind terrible acts.

2018-11-18 23:07:19 UTC  

It could probably be pulled off, if someone put in a lot of effort

2018-11-18 23:07:23 UTC  

But to deny that the terrible act happened in the first place when we have corroborating reports is damaging.

2018-11-18 23:07:28 UTC  

but it would need to have some sort of payoff

2018-11-18 23:07:48 UTC  

We need more actual reporters to actually physically go on the ground where events happen and film the details themselves. But that doesn't make money. Hyper-partisan commentary does.

2018-11-18 23:07:53 UTC  

typically the problem with most conspiracy theories is the amount of money and people who would need to be kept quite.

2018-11-18 23:08:23 UTC  

So we have a dozen left-wing talking heads all regurgitating information from one or two sources at best, which is quite easy to manipulate.

2018-11-18 23:08:23 UTC  

The larger the conspiracy the less likely that it can maintain itself over time

2018-11-18 23:08:52 UTC  

Yes, for sure. But that's not the only problem.

2018-11-18 23:09:11 UTC  

Like we've known about JournoList for years. But if you try to tell someone about it they think you're nuts.

2018-11-18 23:09:18 UTC  

Demoralization has taken hold.

2018-11-18 23:10:15 UTC  

Tried to explain to my mom about the Podesta hack and how it exposed collusion between the Hillary campaign and the media. She wouldn't believe me even when I showed her the emails.

2018-11-18 23:10:41 UTC  

Also, depending on how people get the news, hearing contradictions later by sources they don't trust, they would continue to believe the lie

2018-11-18 23:11:20 UTC  

Like we've see shit where outlets report fake news, and they never correct it

2018-11-18 23:11:25 UTC  

even when disproven