Message from @Zeppelin

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2018-11-13 16:49:15 UTC  

I’m a history major, so historical weaponry interests me.

2018-11-13 16:49:36 UTC  

M1s by then were upgraded to M2s but yes they were used by MAC-V and MAC-V supplied RoVA units

2018-11-13 16:50:11 UTC  

@Khanclansith If you don’t mind my asking, where did you serve while in the Army?

2018-11-13 16:51:08 UTC  

I was a headquarters monkey out at Shafter for 3 and half years, and I was in HHBN 10th Mountain Division.

2018-11-13 16:51:23 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-13 16:51:55 UTC  

Even after the AK-74 (5.45X39mm) was in service, the AKM was still used until the late 80s, if I remember correctly.

2018-11-13 16:52:39 UTC  

In 1986, the AKS-74U carbine was made and was used by Russian tank crews and paratroopers and is still used today.

2018-11-13 16:52:52 UTC  

AKMs never completely left service, They were in the last lines of mobilization and remain so to this day in the Soviet sucessor states.

2018-11-13 16:53:16 UTC  

Well, I figured that I was wrong.

2018-11-13 16:54:30 UTC  

It is hard to translate Soviet moblization orders to US and NATO counterparts because everything was put in the MOs.

2018-11-13 16:54:43 UTC  

I bet.

2018-11-13 16:55:21 UTC  

The Security Guards at the Car Battery Manufaturing Plant were part of the Red Army's MO

2018-11-13 16:56:23 UTC  

Do you know when the Dragunov SVD was put into service? Wasn't it around 1976?

2018-11-13 16:56:38 UTC  

Not off the top of my head

2018-11-13 16:58:09 UTC  

1963 I was aproved for service in the Red Army http://modernfirearms.net/en/sniper-rifles/standart-caliber-rifles/russia-standart-caliber-rifles/dragunov-svd-eng/ Source is sometime off but has access to Russian archives being a local near there

2018-11-13 16:59:36 UTC  

Back in 1958 the requirements were published by the Red Army for what would become the SVD

2018-11-13 17:02:03 UTC  

I see...

2018-11-13 17:13:31 UTC  

The Soviets realized as soon as they gave everyone a carbine that they lost an important "Reach out and Touch Some A-hole" capacity that intermediate rounds just lack.

2018-11-13 17:19:31 UTC  

I mean I've been to some backwater companies during my service, but the most use I've seen AKMs have is during oath swearing

2018-11-13 17:20:11 UTC  

Pretty sure everything remotely related to combat uses newer models

2018-11-13 17:20:46 UTC  

Hell, even as comms, we had 74s

2018-11-13 17:20:54 UTC  

Yeah, like I said, the Soviet MOs were far outside what Western militaries did.

2018-11-13 17:21:30 UTC  

Still are
At least here in the big country

2018-11-13 17:23:55 UTC  

I am doubtful that any "Regular Army" member (draft or pro) has handled an AK-47 to AK-49/2 in decades.

2018-11-13 17:25:40 UTC  

49/2s were still handled in 1998 in some conscript companies

2018-11-13 17:26:28 UTC  

But back then you could drive a tank corps from Helsinki to St. Pete's without much opposition

2018-11-13 17:26:31 UTC  

I would have thought those were AKMs, but I am not russian so i will take your word

2018-11-13 17:26:54 UTC  

Wait, may have been AKMs

2018-11-13 17:27:07 UTC  

Will have to double-check

2018-11-13 17:27:09 UTC  

Milled or Stamped receivers

2018-11-13 17:27:34 UTC  

Stamped if I'm not completely crazy

2018-11-13 17:27:47 UTC  

stamped were the AKMs

2018-11-13 17:28:05 UTC  

Yeah, my bad

2018-11-13 17:28:45 UTC  

ak receiver is a piece of thick sheet metal, folded and drilled
or, if mass-produced, stamped

2018-11-13 17:28:57 UTC  

what does everyone think of bumpstocks?

2018-11-13 17:30:20 UTC  

pretty remarkable what some nutjob can do with a bumpstock, really

2018-11-13 17:31:34 UTC  

Hello, gents

2018-11-13 17:32:29 UTC  

How's it going?

2018-11-13 17:32:44 UTC  

just fantastic - and you?

2018-11-13 17:33:00 UTC  

Not bad. Just got done eating lunch