more taxes

Sorry, so what's the opposition to the wall then?

and if more taxes on borders less for welfare

in Communist China, digging and filling the same hole was a _job_

Drop social security and taxes would go down even with that system

for clarity: social security in the usa is the medicade/care stuff right?

No

get a load of this, he is in favor of welfare for unemployment, but against social security

It's a type of retirement fund

ahh state pension

No

yes

Pensions are only for certain police and military

if its a retirement fund paid for by the state its defacto a state pension

does it pay for other things?

Well maybe

Officially? No

Unofficially? Its pays for everything

so in the UK we have had state pensions for 110 years now

and its bankrupt

same for the rest of Europe

I have to pay in but will not be able to get a pension

Yeah, SS is going bankrupt too

A state pension that, like all state pensions, was never funded and therefore is paid like a Ponzi scheme

Actually SS was funded

Keyword was

SS? as in the historical peoples of germanic origin?

No

oh social security

sorry

its called national insurance here

Hold on, so why can retirees get fucked but not people who get fired for doing a shit job?

indeed

Well, I think that we need to ease off it

They can't work anymore in many cases. How do you ease off?

If your over a certain age, you keep paying in

@Beemann someone finally pushes the same point I did

If your under you drop it

honestly Codes I used to think the same about welfare. then I got educated on lots of things and it opened my mind

By that guy who, you would only not suck off because you dont want to cheat?

Wait, why should I pay into a system for benefits I will never see? You pay for the current set of retirees, not yourself