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China has resoundingly rejected equality of outcome.

China was never Communist, just Socialist, and now it's possibly over in Fashy territory

Depending on how you wanna split those hairs

@Atkins you know when he is talking about "USA accounts" the british gov brought that in. they legislate our pensions now

Communist is a good shortened version, I think

Communist is a different thing

fash and commie are just different flavours of socialism

Without going into detail

No, socialism is a transition state on the way to communism, fascism is a variant of socialism

When you shittalk commies it's important to be accurate

Let's not get hung up on terms

So you can't get dinged on details

both lead to central planning, mass murder and everyone except and extreme minority being poor

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for me, the difference between Communism and Socialism gets so confusing that I don't bother

Fascism worked out pretty well economically, but then again *they put capitalists in charge*

Facism ironically didn't lead to starvation of the majority

Communism is anti hierarchal

Communism as defined by Marx has never existed.

nah, they stole a bunch of money from people

It's a magical fairyland system.

and it will never exist

Well it could

it always starts with stealing, and ends up with starving

it couldnt

It's like this:
Step 1: Concentrate power in a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Perfect egalitarian post-scarcity utopia!

Italian fascism actually had a low taxation rate and successful business, it just operated under the understanding that it could all get yoinked out by the dictatorship, which is where it would have gone south

isnt step 2 the stealing and murdering?

I mean, once we got the replicator from star trek

Step 1 is the stealing and murdering. They never get to step 2 (whatever it is)

you know star trek isnt communist right? they have private property

Ofc I do

cool

I am saying that once we get to that point

It could exist

replicators ftw yeah

Is all

but communism never

id start a civil war first ^^

There wouldn't be a need