Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-30 23:05:32 UTC  

I'm too tired right now

2018-11-30 23:05:42 UTC  

just click the link

2018-11-30 23:05:51 UTC  

Bookmark the links

2018-11-30 23:06:03 UTC  

My phone is busted mate

2018-11-30 23:06:11 UTC  

Doesn't work for some reason

2018-11-30 23:06:12 UTC  

If you mean "we need to stop trying to drive up GDP by any means necessary" to "we need to increase per capital real GDP through safe and sustainable means" then I agree.

2018-11-30 23:06:33 UTC  

I mean, one surefire way to drive up GDP is to increase population.

2018-11-30 23:06:38 UTC  

But that doesn't help the people.

2018-11-30 23:07:01 UTC  

By PPP measures, China has a higher GDP than the US but most people live in squalor.

2018-11-30 23:07:24 UTC  

That's mostly cause its china

2018-11-30 23:07:37 UTC  

commies are poor

2018-11-30 23:07:42 UTC  

^

2018-11-30 23:08:02 UTC  

China has resoundingly rejected equality of outcome.

2018-11-30 23:08:18 UTC  

China was never Communist, just Socialist, and now it's possibly over in Fashy territory

2018-11-30 23:08:30 UTC  

Depending on how you wanna split those hairs

2018-11-30 23:08:53 UTC  

@Atkins you know when he is talking about "USA accounts" the british gov brought that in. they legislate our pensions now

2018-11-30 23:09:04 UTC  

Communist is a good shortened version, I think

2018-11-30 23:09:14 UTC  

Communist is a different thing

2018-11-30 23:09:19 UTC  

fash and commie are just different flavours of socialism

2018-11-30 23:09:30 UTC  

Without going into detail

2018-11-30 23:09:50 UTC  

No, socialism is a transition state on the way to communism, fascism is a variant of socialism

2018-11-30 23:10:13 UTC  

When you shittalk commies it's important to be accurate

2018-11-30 23:10:14 UTC  

Let's not get hung up on terms

2018-11-30 23:10:19 UTC  

So you can't get dinged on details

2018-11-30 23:11:03 UTC  

both lead to central planning, mass murder and everyone except and extreme minority being poor

2018-11-30 23:11:10 UTC  

^

2018-11-30 23:11:40 UTC  

for me, the difference between Communism and Socialism gets so confusing that I don't bother

2018-11-30 23:11:50 UTC  

Fascism worked out pretty well economically, but then again *they put capitalists in charge*

2018-11-30 23:11:56 UTC  

Facism ironically didn't lead to starvation of the majority

2018-11-30 23:11:57 UTC  

Communism is anti hierarchal

2018-11-30 23:11:57 UTC  

Communism as defined by Marx has never existed.

2018-11-30 23:12:04 UTC  

nah, they stole a bunch of money from people

2018-11-30 23:12:09 UTC  

It's a magical fairyland system.

2018-11-30 23:12:14 UTC  

and it will never exist

2018-11-30 23:12:49 UTC  

Well it could

2018-11-30 23:12:51 UTC  

it always starts with stealing, and ends up with starving

2018-11-30 23:12:54 UTC  

it couldnt

2018-11-30 23:13:03 UTC  

It's like this:
Step 1: Concentrate power in a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Perfect egalitarian post-scarcity utopia!

2018-11-30 23:13:24 UTC  

Italian fascism actually had a low taxation rate and successful business, it just operated under the understanding that it could all get yoinked out by the dictatorship, which is where it would have gone south

2018-11-30 23:13:26 UTC  

isnt step 2 the stealing and murdering?

2018-11-30 23:13:29 UTC  

I mean, once we got the replicator from star trek