Message from @Jes

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2018-12-01 00:00:47 UTC  

fair

2018-12-01 00:01:19 UTC  

the problem then becomes, are they allowed to kill each other when exiled?

2018-12-01 00:01:37 UTC  

in exile they would be outside the law

2018-12-01 00:01:57 UTC  

as they would be outside the juristiction

2018-12-01 00:02:14 UTC  

so technically could just kill each other

2018-12-01 00:02:17 UTC  

Ted Kaczynski, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer? you would trust these people to sit next to you? be near your kids? maybe Ted since he actually had a reason.

2018-12-01 00:02:31 UTC  

If only we had some place we could put these people where they don't hurt others, but are still able to live.

2018-12-01 00:02:43 UTC  

gonna invest in those rotating habs in space

2018-12-01 00:02:44 UTC  

I'd trust Ted.

2018-12-01 00:02:51 UTC  

like i said, maybe Ted.

2018-12-01 00:03:14 UTC  

I'd probably get along with Ted.

2018-12-01 00:03:18 UTC  

why did ted do it?

2018-12-01 00:03:23 UTC  

I don't know

2018-12-01 00:03:26 UTC  

they fucked with his brain

2018-12-01 00:03:29 UTC  

oh

2018-12-01 00:03:40 UTC  

who is they?

2018-12-01 00:03:42 UTC  

There's no real logical connection between his manifesto and bombings.

2018-12-01 00:03:59 UTC  

literally. I believe all the people on his list where involved in the experiment that fucked them up. but that might not be accurate.

2018-12-01 00:04:25 UTC  

@Jes he was selected for an experiment that boiled down to "what happens if we fuck with the psychology of a very very smart person."

2018-12-01 00:04:40 UTC  

it played out exactly as you'd expect

2018-12-01 00:04:45 UTC  

so some university or the gov?

2018-12-01 00:04:54 UTC  

yes

2018-12-01 00:04:58 UTC  

MK Ultra

2018-12-01 00:05:13 UTC  

ooohhhhh

2018-12-01 00:05:18 UTC  

damn

2018-12-01 00:05:23 UTC  

"Psychological study

As a sophomore, Kaczynski participated in a study described by author Alston Chase as a "purposely brutalizing psychological experiment" led by Harvard psychologist Henry Murray. Subjects were told they would be debating personal philosophy with a fellow student, and were asked to write essays detailing their personal beliefs and aspirations. The essays were turned over to an anonymous attorney, who in a later session would confront and belittle the subject – making "vehement, sweeping, and personally abusive" attacks – using the content of the essays as ammunition, while electrodes monitored the subject's physiological reactions. These encounters were filmed, and subjects' expressions of anger and rage were later played back to them repeatedly.[24] The experiment lasted three years, with someone verbally abusing and humiliating Kaczynski each week.[25][26] Kaczynski spent 200 hours as part of the study.[27]

Kaczynski's lawyers later attributed his hostility towards mind control techniques to his participation in Murray's study.[24] Some sources have suggested that Murray's experiments were part of Project MKUltra, the Central Intelligence Agency's research into mind control.[28][29][30] Chase[31][32] and others[33][34] have also suggested that this experience may have motivated Kaczynski's criminal activities, while philosopher Jonathan D. Moreno said that, though "Kaczynski's anti-technological fixation and his critique itself had some roots in the Harvard curriculum," his later bombing campaign can "by no means be laid at Harvard's door".[25] "

2018-12-01 00:05:57 UTC  

okay thats fucked up

2018-12-01 00:06:06 UTC  

thats some clockwork orange shit

2018-12-01 00:06:18 UTC  

like i said, turned out exactly as you'd expect.

2018-12-01 00:07:30 UTC  

well thanks for telling me that. i honestly never knew that stuff about the unibomber

2018-12-01 00:08:08 UTC  

given the male propensity for violence and aggression then that type of "testing" its not really a surprise it turned out like tht

2018-12-01 00:08:34 UTC  

no wonder the american people have zero faith in the cia

2018-12-01 00:10:00 UTC  

`In 1994, Burson-Marsteller executive Thomas J. Mosser was killed by a mail bomb sent to his home in North Caldwell, New Jersey. In another letter to The New York Times, Kaczynski said he "blew up Thomas Mosser because ... Burston-Marsteller helped Exxon clean up its public image after the Exxon Valdez incident" and, more importantly, because "its business is the development of techniques for manipulating people's attitudes."`

2018-12-01 00:10:10 UTC  

**more importantly, because "its business is the development of techniques for manipulating people's attitudes."**

2018-12-01 00:10:46 UTC  

like i said, Ted, to an extent, had a reason.

2018-12-01 00:10:48 UTC  

that supports the 'mind control' angle. Ted was probably smart enough to understand what had happened to him.

2018-12-01 00:11:33 UTC  

Oh, Ted knew EXACTLY what happened to him. I don't think his intelligence was fucked up. it was his moral compass they fucked with.

2018-12-01 00:12:21 UTC  

tbh, Ted is basically a batman villain. Like one of the well written ones who is sympathetic to a point.

2018-12-01 00:13:58 UTC  
2018-12-01 00:15:32 UTC  

A smart kid, the government does an experiment on, he figures it out after being fucked with, so he now believes if he kills this small number of people, he will be saving a lot more people from an evil government

2018-12-01 02:11:20 UTC  

offtopic