Message from @Beemann
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Who wants our industry to be non-competitive?
You apparently
We are losing to China because we are not competitive
I want as much domestic competition as possible.
Thus the solution isn't to preserve non competitiveness via protectionism
It's to figure out why we aren't competitive
You wanna make people competitive by taking their money?
What the fuck
What you mean is that we're losing a competition with China that we shouldn't even be engaged in.
On what basis?
America does not produce everything it needs, nor is it feasible for it to do so
You dont like global trade?
Competition with the third world to see who can be the most third-world is a fool's game that we shouldn't be playing.
1. You're going to drastically increase the cost of goods
2. You're going to have to heavily industrialize more of your country by a substantial amount, without sufficient monetary inventive existing organically
3. You're probably still not going to have good domestic competition due to the way taxation, lobbying etc works
The purpose is to trade not become like the third world
That and China isn't third world
That makes trade with the third world even stupider then, Make.
Thats a problem with the intellectual state not trade LOL
1. Third world = political affiliation. China is not third world
2. Trade with other nations is beneficial for both nations
China is absolutely third-world. The wage differential between China and the US proves that.
China is 2nd world. Please read about what First, Second and Third world mean. Wage differential is not the key factor lol
It's not beneficial across-the-board for either nation.
By what standard is something 3rd world?
Fine, I'll call China a shithole instead.
1-3 World is Cold War Alliance terminology
It's one of the richest countries in the world, and if the US fucks up it will likely become the dominant power
Which is why the idea of shifting production to another country was floated
lol, dominant in what exactly?
Economy.
China produces most of what the West consumes, has fucktons of money and is currently using that economic power to sway/coerce smaller countries
China was put in that situation by massive treason on the part of special interests in the West.
Would you like to explain how it's treason?
It's the willful transfer of economic superiority from us to them by elements of our own society.
So you're owed their income?
Are they owed my income?
Sorry? I wasn't aware that not buying an iPad was punishable by death
Wut?
Meanwhile taxation is the application of force
No shit.
Government intervention is necessarily forceful
And the charge of treason for trade decisions implies that you are owed the money they have earned, in some sense
How have they earned it?