On what basis?

America does not produce everything it needs, nor is it feasible for it to do so

You dont like global trade?

Competition with the third world to see who can be the most third-world is a fool's game that we shouldn't be playing.

1. You're going to drastically increase the cost of goods
2. You're going to have to heavily industrialize more of your country by a substantial amount, without sufficient monetary inventive existing organically
3. You're probably still not going to have good domestic competition due to the way taxation, lobbying etc works

The purpose is to trade not become like the third world

That and China isn't third world

That makes trade with the third world even stupider then, Make.

Thats a problem with the intellectual state not trade LOL

1. Third world = political affiliation. China is not third world
2. Trade with other nations is beneficial for both nations

China is absolutely third-world. The wage differential between China and the US proves that.

China is 2nd world. Please read about what First, Second and Third world mean. Wage differential is not the key factor lol

It's not beneficial across-the-board for either nation.

By what standard is something 3rd world?

Fine, I'll call China a shithole instead.

1-3 World is Cold War Alliance terminology

It's one of the richest countries in the world, and if the US fucks up it will likely become the dominant power

Which is why the idea of shifting production to another country was floated

lol, dominant in what exactly?

Economy.
China produces most of what the West consumes, has fucktons of money and is currently using that economic power to sway/coerce smaller countries

China was put in that situation by massive treason on the part of special interests in the West.

Would you like to explain how it's treason?

It's the willful transfer of economic superiority from us to them by elements of our own society.

So you're owed their income?

Are they owed my income?

Sorry? I wasn't aware that not buying an iPad was punishable by death

Wut?

Meanwhile taxation is the application of force

No shit.

Government intervention is necessarily forceful

And the charge of treason for trade decisions implies that you are owed the money they have earned, in some sense

How have they earned it?

Because you paid for what they made, "you" being general

I have a product, I provide it, you buy it. That's my money now

We're not talking about the black market here.

No, we're talking about the most basic level of trade

I sell you thing for money, I use % of money to produce more of thing as efficiently as I can

The government dips into both ends to pay for security and services

I'm not interested in talking about trade in the lolbertarian state of nature.

That's how trade just works my dude, it's not libertarian magic

This is why you don't understand why people are outsourcing lol