So the average Chinese worker would be better off without trade?

Its not perfect but look what the market did to their quality of life

Look, I don't care about incremental improvements in shithole countries occurring at great cost to the working class in non-shithole countries.

Whoosh there go those goalposts again

Muh Chinese have jobs that Americans dont

Americans don't what?

Okay so let's bring it back to domestic issues. Stop bringing in more people if you don't have enough jobs

Yes, stop bringing them in and stop offshoring since they're both effectively the same thing.

HOLY FUCK

GERNERILIZATIONS EVERYWHERE!

The native American (meaning people born in America) population is in decline naturally

Ergo if there are more people than jobs, let there be less people and stop basing everything around constant growth

There's nothing natural about America's population decline.

so you guys are saying that its okay to use slave labor in China for profitability

>people have been having fewer kids generation by generation
>not natural
Okay

That's always been what they're saying, m1.

In what way is it "slave" labor?

@m1 ignoring the slave labour comment, what is your solution?

perhaps hyperbolic, but when the workers are building iphones

and jumping to their deaths

where they put up nets

id say we are getting close

Except they choose to work

said every slave owner

@m1 what is your solution to China's shitty labour standards?

dont do business in china

They should be treated humanely of course but the difference between a slave and a worker it was his will not something caused by force

Okay, so take away the jobs they have currently. Now they have 0 income

are there no poor people in EU?

that will work for very low

like E. Europe countries

or do we just say fuck them

Wait, is your solution to just shift the same working conditions to Europe?

no

im sayiing that poor europeans prolly want jobs

and im saying you are selfish for giving them to the chinese

Okay, so we're still left with starving Chinese citizens from your empathetic plan

that's a chinese problem not mine

and yes

Do they matter less than Europeans?

I don't live in Europe either