>people have been having fewer kids generation by generation
>not natural
Okay

That's always been what they're saying, m1.

In what way is it "slave" labor?

@m1 ignoring the slave labour comment, what is your solution?

perhaps hyperbolic, but when the workers are building iphones

and jumping to their deaths

where they put up nets

id say we are getting close

Except they choose to work

said every slave owner

@m1 what is your solution to China's shitty labour standards?

dont do business in china

They should be treated humanely of course but the difference between a slave and a worker it was his will not something caused by force

Okay, so take away the jobs they have currently. Now they have 0 income

are there no poor people in EU?

that will work for very low

like E. Europe countries

or do we just say fuck them

Wait, is your solution to just shift the same working conditions to Europe?

no

im sayiing that poor europeans prolly want jobs

and im saying you are selfish for giving them to the chinese

Okay, so we're still left with starving Chinese citizens from your empathetic plan

that's a chinese problem not mine

and yes

Do they matter less than Europeans?

I don't live in Europe either

im not saying that

im just saying that if I was in the EU

id take care of EU ppls first

EU has labour laws. Minimum wage

for all countries?

It will always cost considerably more

Are you seriously arguing that China couldn't produce for its own domestic consumption if the US export market dries up?

not me

I think Beemann is.

Cost of living is also higher

I'm saying China would not produce as much as it does for domestic usage

and we need not be melodramatic. The avg Russian makes less than the Avg Chinese person

Which means you're cutting down on jobs

Russia isn't EU