Message from @halfthink

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2018-12-07 18:42:24 UTC  

They said last week they preped 60,000 Police. They are getting 90,000 police this weekend expecting numbers higher than a quarter million

2018-12-07 19:08:23 UTC  

plus military

2018-12-07 19:08:34 UTC  

i suspect that may backfire

2018-12-07 19:09:48 UTC  

grunts generally being part of the lower classes means they are just as personally affected by fuel taxes as anyone else, and they also tend to be highly nationalistic.

2018-12-07 19:20:25 UTC  

you bet

2018-12-07 19:24:08 UTC  

I'm wondering if that maybe the regressive left suffers from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

2018-12-07 19:45:05 UTC  

I bet that happens to both sides

2018-12-07 19:45:14 UTC  

thats why its so hard to get someone to change their minds

2018-12-07 19:57:04 UTC  

You're probably right. I'll bet I fall prey to it as well. "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge." - The late Stephen Hawking

2018-12-07 20:28:57 UTC  

@halfthink Those are interesting links.

2018-12-07 20:36:09 UTC  
2018-12-07 20:48:15 UTC  

@SolidHalon here's another good one. It's two essays explaining how private law and private defense might work. Audio version is less than two hours:
https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory

2018-12-07 20:50:01 UTC  

I like how the British people voted for Brexit and now everyone is trying so hard to essentially reverse the vote

2018-12-07 20:50:35 UTC  

like if they get any step towards their agenda of stopping brexit theyre like "oh thank goodness the people's vote is meaningless!"

2018-12-07 20:50:45 UTC  

"thank goodness we don't have to listen to what people want!"

2018-12-07 20:51:04 UTC  

If by everyone you mean a minority of people that are still salty about losing the referendum, then yeah.

2018-12-07 20:51:27 UTC  

The most powerful minority tho.

2018-12-07 20:52:25 UTC  

Yeah they're the "most powerful". You'll see some yellow jacket level shit if they back out of BREXIT

2018-12-07 20:53:08 UTC  

Individually, not collectively.

2018-12-07 20:53:19 UTC  

Imagin you're in a room with the task of doing something you've been asked to do. There's a couple of hundred of you and 80% of think what you are doing is wrong. What would you do?

2018-12-07 20:54:01 UTC  

Okay, you're not having a boxing match. The collective power of the people of the UK decided to vote leave. The collective power matters here

2018-12-07 20:54:19 UTC  

```"Nothing appears more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and the implicit submission, with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers. When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that, as Force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is therefore, on opinion only that government is founded; and this maxim extends to the most despotic and most military governments, as well as to the most free and most popular."
-David Hume. ```

2018-12-07 20:54:46 UTC  

But you were voted for by the ppl. They voted for you to deligate their thinking to you. They've got shit to do.

2018-12-07 20:55:43 UTC  

I like that.

2018-12-07 20:56:12 UTC  

Yeah that take is pretty retarded. You have a habit of falling back on random quotes from random thinkers. Use your own arguments. That quote forgets how fragile that rule of the few is. Look how fragile Macron's power over France is.

2018-12-07 20:56:55 UTC  

How is france anything but a sudden change in the opinion the people have toward the government?

2018-12-07 20:57:10 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-07 20:57:49 UTC  

I'm not saying it isn't a change in opinion you chimp. My entire point is that their views of their government changed and now they're toppling it. They have the power.

2018-12-07 20:58:13 UTC  

@Poppy Rider If 80% thinks its wrong they should leave

2018-12-07 20:58:22 UTC  

It didn't change you chimp. They snapped.

2018-12-07 20:58:28 UTC  

If the other 20% want to do it they can and should if its in their interests

2018-12-07 20:58:57 UTC  

The other 80% shouldnt force the other 20 to not do something

2018-12-07 20:59:08 UTC  
2018-12-07 20:59:11 UTC  

Vice versa

2018-12-07 21:00:07 UTC  

IT should be clear to them that they are not only beholden to there constituents but also to the country at large and should step down if they can't up hold their duties.

2018-12-07 21:00:56 UTC  

Alas we do not and never have lived in a principled world . Ppl like power.

2018-12-07 21:02:54 UTC  

How to rule Souls
"What do you want Ellsworth ?"

"Power, Petey. I want to rule. Like my spiritual predecessors. But I’m luckier than they were. I inherited the fruit of their efforts and I shall be the one who’ll see the great dream made real. I see it all around me today. I recognise it. I don’t like it. I didn’t expect to like it. Enjoyment is not my destiny. I shall find such satisfaction as my capacity permits. I shall rule."

"Whom...?"

"You. The world. It’s only a matter of discovering the lever. If you learn how to rule one single man’s soul, you can get the rest of mankind. It’s the soul, Peter, the soul. Not whips or swords or fire or guns. That’s why the Caesars, the attilas, the Napoleons were fools and did not last. We will. The soul, Peter, is that which can’t be ruled. It must be broken. Drive a wedge in, get your fingers on it – and the man is yours. You won’t need a whip – he’ll bring it to you and ask to be whipped. Set him in reverse – and his own mechanism will do your work for you. Use him against himself. Want to know how it’s done? See if I ever lied to you. See if you haven’t heard all this for years, but didn’t want to hear, and the fault is yours, not mine.

2018-12-07 21:03:19 UTC  
2018-12-07 21:03:50 UTC  

There are many ways. Here’s one. Make man feel small. Make him feel guilty. Kill his aspiration and his integrity. That’s difficult. The worst among you gropes for an idol in his own twisted way. Kill integrity by internal corruption. Use it against himself. Direct it towards a goal destructive of all integrity. Preach selflessness. Tell man that altruism is the ideal. Not a single one has ever reached it and not a single one ever will. His every living instinct screams against it. But don’t you see what you accomplish ? Man realises that he’s incapable of what he’s accepted as the noblest virtue - and it gives him a sense of guilt, of sin, of his own basic unworthiness. Since the supreme ideal is beyond his grasp, he gives up eventually all ideals, all aspiration, all sense of his personal value. He feels himself obliged to preach what he can’t practice. But one can’t be good halfway or honest approximately. To preserve one’s integrity is a hard battle. Why preserve that which one knows to be corrupt already? His soul gives up its self respect. You’ve got him. He’ll obey. He’ll be glad to obey – because he can’t trust himself, he feels uncertain, he feels unclean. That’s one way.