Message from @KingKull2112

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2018-12-11 03:01:45 UTC  

That any group that wishes to censor everyone else is going down the road of Facism and will be tempted to embrace NAZI tendencies.

2018-12-11 03:05:22 UTC  

OK. What does censorship look like in practice? What precisely are you for and against when it comes to speech?

2018-12-11 03:06:20 UTC  

```"Rome cut off the heads of Christians and they continued to reappear one way or another. Something similar happens with Marxists."
-Pinochet.```
```"Now it cannot be denied that the only way one can offer effective resistance to violent assaults is by violence. Against the weapons of the Bolsheviks, weapons must be used in reprisal, and it would be a mistake to display weakness before murderers. No liberal has ever called this into question. What distinguishes liberal from Fascist political tactics is not a difference of opinion in regard to the necessity of using armed force to resist armed attackers, but a difference in the fundamental estimation of the role of violence in a struggle for power. The great danger threatening domestic policy from the side of Fascism lies in its complete faith in the decisive power of violence. In order to assure success, one must be imbued with the will to victory and always proceed violently. This is its highest principle. What happens, however, when one's opponent, similarly animated by the will to be victorious, acts just as violently? The result must be a battle, a civil war. The ultimate victor to emerge from such conflicts will be the faction strongest in number. In the long run, a minority — even if it is composed of the most capable and energetic — cannot succeed in resisting the majority. The decisive question, therefore, always remains: How does one obtain a majority for one's own party? This, however, is a purely intellectual matter. It is a victory that can be won only with the weapons of the intellect, never by force. The suppression of all opposition by sheer violence is a most unsuitable way to win adherents to one's cause. Resort to naked force — that is, without justification in terms of intellectual arguments accepted by public opinion — merely gains new friends for those whom one is thereby trying to combat. In a battle between force and an idea, the latter always prevails."
-Ludwig von Mises.```

2018-12-11 03:06:47 UTC  

Heil Hydra.

2018-12-11 03:07:12 UTC  

Embracing ideas such as Blasphomy laws are bad. The argument is that if you can not critizie ideas, then we can not have open conversations, and to say that some ideas are absolutely off limits because it offends groups means there can never be healthy conversations.

2018-12-11 03:31:23 UTC  

Who wants to hear my unpopular opinion of African Americans?

2018-12-11 03:36:17 UTC  

Aren't all opinions of African Americans unpopular?

2018-12-11 03:46:16 UTC  

"Objective truth is impossible to achieve in the social sciences, so we should just focus on making propaganda"
"The social scientists have only used the cognitive function, in various ways. The point, however, is to use the manipulative function."
https://youtu.be/oCaCrWzFPYY

2018-12-11 04:35:34 UTC  

@halfthink is there a timestamp for those quotes you can help me with?

2018-12-11 04:44:46 UTC  

Just paraphrasing the conclusion of the speech.

2018-12-11 04:58:08 UTC  

Soros' argument, which he takes from Karl Popper, that empiricism is unable to achieve objective truth in the social sciences is correct, but he assumes empiricism is the only means of obtaining knowledge about anything. Geometry and Math are not empirical sciences, but no one denies their objectivity (other than postmodernists). Ludwig von Mises solved this issue with the social sciences in his book, Human Action by deducing universal laws from an axiomatic starting position.
https://mises.org/library/praxeology-over-positivism
https://youtu.be/MWaGF4GZvTg
https://mises.org/library/human-action-0

2018-12-11 05:10:34 UTC  

Hey @Timcast have you ever thought of trying to start something like a trade association for creators? It seems like creators banding together is the only thing that gives platforms like Youtube, Twitter, and Patreon pause. In this current spate of deplatforming, Patreon especially seems worried about creators working together.

2018-12-11 05:11:49 UTC  

If you could come up with something like a set of shared principles in an open letter, you could as a whole become a force not to be trifled with.

2018-12-11 05:12:13 UTC  

At least it would give you a starting point for future collective action.

2018-12-11 05:14:24 UTC  

A trade organization of a few dozen creators would have a lot more clout with platforms that individuals, and might have some hope of getting policies changed. Or at the very least make them think twice about fucking with members arbitrarily.

2018-12-11 05:17:48 UTC  

You know a lot of people across Youtube and elsewhere, and you're seen as a level-headed, non-controversial, middle-of-the-road kind of guy. While you might not be the person to take charge of such an effort, maybe you could get the ball rolling.

2018-12-11 05:21:43 UTC  

There's the "Intellectual Dark Web", and while the people associated with it are precisely the sort of people I'm talking about they don't have the sort of statement of principles or formal group affiliation which could be used to actually lobby platforms or defend members. A creator trade association would have to be a little more formal and close-knit in order to have any sort of negotiating clout.

2018-12-11 05:30:46 UTC  

That just sounds like communism with extra steps.

2018-12-11 06:23:59 UTC  

Who here has autism and wants to weaponize it?

2018-12-11 06:24:28 UTC  

Somebody should go find clips of Jack Conte saying naughty words and publish them everywhere, get him removed from CEO of his own company

2018-12-11 06:24:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/521935287279026176/autism.png

2018-12-11 06:24:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/521935296099778568/Max_Stirner.jpg

2018-12-11 06:24:51 UTC  

and when I say naughty, I mean slurs

2018-12-11 06:25:31 UTC  

individualism is autism

2018-12-11 06:25:39 UTC  

in a good way

2018-12-11 06:55:20 UTC  

Here's my unpopular opinion of African Americans:

2018-12-11 06:56:04 UTC  

One of the troubles of urban black culture stem from the community's demonization of formal education, it being labelled as "White people shit". This is usually paired with the pervasive mindset that the only paths to success are through sports, rap music, and criminal activity, particularly in the case of gang violence. The enabling of this mindset from a very young age actively discourages aspiring black children from pursuing other means of success like academics, trades, or crafts. The only effective way to combat this is to encourage black children to break from the dangerously narrow "hood mentality" and harmful urban culture that black people have locked themselves into for so many years.

2018-12-11 07:11:46 UTC  

The only unpopular part of that opinion is blaming the blacks for what the welfare state would have done to any community.

2018-12-11 07:25:56 UTC  
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2018-12-11 10:43:41 UTC  

French are fucking retarded
https://youtu.be/5iH7dPW7hyU

2018-12-11 10:54:15 UTC  

Le ~~yellow vest~~ commie manifesto.

2018-12-11 11:08:48 UTC  

they can't even imagine the world without a welfare-state

2018-12-11 11:12:10 UTC  

Why should the taxpayer have to pay for the public sector? That's the government's responsibility.

2018-12-11 11:18:27 UTC  

yeah... the government can just print the money and pay for services, n'est-ce pas? 😉