If patreon was run by people that got mad at the word "cracker"

and went around targeting podcasts that used it

admittedly its not the same at all

But its still their decision to own

There is reason to ban without allowing just Patrons to decide for themselves. Patrons have to decide AFTER they hear something. Banning prevents something. There are kids younger than 10 who use Patreon. It's reasonable to try to keep the tone of conversation within a certain spectrum

So his N word thing happened off of patreon

I guarantee you if Patreon banned anybody who said Cracker the free speech crowd would be less happy, not happier

People would become patrons **before** being well aware of the content they help fund ?

Free speech for all, whether we like it or not.

@Countess Yes. I'm trying to get you to talk about the principle but you're only resorting to talking about the specifics of one case

@Illyrian Even 6 year-olds?

Because I dont agree that is what the controversy is about

@atheist4thecause I must.

what?

If you use the N word on twitter, and you get banned

Im fine with it

Its part of their policy

Patreon specifically said they would not ban you for things off platform

Even if you’re referencing a book?

Well, technically, Patreon has left it open for them to choose whatever they want to do

quoting ought to be fine wouldn't it ?

But you are acknowledging that some banning is okay

Their written policy does not say that

and in Jacks interview

he said that would never happen

Yeah im not anti ban

Does their ToS limit them from doing that?

You are allowed to moderate their platform

Im not sure how much legal responsibility they are held to on their own terms of service

Its about them lying

@Illyrian it's possible to quote a book saying the n-word and just putting starts like n****r

it's childish

@Illyrian So you are okay with 6 year-old regularly reading and picking up saying the n-word?

@atheist4thecause I consider that to be ridiculous and infantilizing.

Six year olds shouldn’t be on social media.

@Illyrian Infantilizing infants?

Im cool with the N word being in literature

Kids need to understand why something is hurtful

@Illyrian oh, so the free speech guy is going to decide who should and shouldn't be on social media

instead of just telling them its bad

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