Message from @Dionysus

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2018-12-24 20:08:38 UTC  

technically

2018-12-24 20:09:10 UTC  

I say "Self Proclaimed Liberal"

2018-12-24 20:09:26 UTC  

nowadays, you can't just say you're liberal
you'll have to qualify that with classical liberal or centre-left

2018-12-24 20:09:34 UTC  

cuz liberal itself is kinda tarnished

2018-12-24 20:09:36 UTC  

and useless

2018-12-24 20:09:46 UTC  

nah, ppl only attack liberals because the other flavors are extreme, and it sounds like you are punching down too much

2018-12-24 20:10:30 UTC  

in the US, if you attack socialists, you aren't attacking the mainstream left (or that's what it used to mean)

2018-12-24 20:10:47 UTC  

I know

2018-12-24 20:11:29 UTC  

they belong to the progressive camp

2018-12-24 20:11:42 UTC  

which is also where stuff like intersectionalism belongs

2018-12-24 20:12:27 UTC  

I recently read an interesting piece about how many ppl support socialism, marxism etc just as a way of rebelling

2018-12-24 20:12:57 UTC  

not in Europe

2018-12-24 20:13:09 UTC  

in my country there's only socialists and communists

2018-12-24 20:13:17 UTC  

in europe, you've got social democrats

2018-12-24 20:13:31 UTC  

who are capitalistic as fuck, but tax income to maintain welfare state

2018-12-24 20:13:40 UTC  

so is that socialist or capitalist

2018-12-24 20:13:45 UTC  

both

2018-12-24 20:13:57 UTC  

Yurp breaks the left-right dichotomy

2018-12-24 20:14:05 UTC  

social democrats are just socialists

2018-12-24 20:14:07 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-12-24 20:14:10 UTC  

nah

2018-12-24 20:14:23 UTC  

they have some of the best environments for businesses

2018-12-24 20:14:26 UTC  

but

2018-12-24 20:14:33 UTC  

crony capitalism is still a form of socialism

2018-12-24 20:14:34 UTC  

they tax income to maintain welfare state

2018-12-24 20:14:45 UTC  

they don't have crony cap tho

2018-12-24 20:15:06 UTC  

they rank top of best places to do business every year

2018-12-24 20:15:16 UTC  

even above the US

2018-12-24 20:15:46 UTC  

whats your country, btw

2018-12-24 20:15:48 UTC  

arguable, as all Europe is socialist

2018-12-24 20:15:51 UTC  

Portugal

2018-12-24 20:15:55 UTC  

ok

2018-12-24 20:16:05 UTC  

i heard spain has a socialist govt currently

2018-12-24 20:16:15 UTC  

I live in Japan now though

2018-12-24 20:16:19 UTC  

damn

2018-12-24 20:16:22 UTC  

das lit

2018-12-24 20:16:42 UTC  

do you like it there

2018-12-24 20:16:43 UTC  

Portugal shares the government with actual communists

2018-12-24 20:16:56 UTC  

Japan is awesome

2018-12-24 20:17:09 UTC  

I'm still unemployed though, I have to fix that

2018-12-24 20:17:22 UTC  

do you get benefits until you find work